From yesterday – 2024September11th in `#Forum` on the Undernet IRC network:
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:34’33”} I have a dilemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:48’06”} * I have a *tri*lemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:00’18”} welcome in `Ilumi’`
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:00’38”} repost for `u’Naughty`: {central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:48’06”} * I have a *tri*lemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’10”} * IlumiNaughty holy hell, its 48° Fahrenheit outside
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’20”} ough.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’25”} * IlumiNaughty shivers
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’48”} free radicals!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’02”} * IlumiNaughty callsl the anti oixidents
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’05”} -i
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’34”} it’s a pretty vexing question
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’35”} be medium, not happy medium
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’50”} be a medium?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’50”} happy is too much to exect
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’58”} happy is too much to expect
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’00”} *laughing*
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’14”} are you serious with that: being (happy) medium?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’17”} learn to measure medium as happy
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’25”} heh
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’35”} lowered expectationn are the key to happiness
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:05’51”} * lakitu gives voice to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:06’23”} what do ops?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:06’42”} what, no ops?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:06’53”} that was meant as
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:07’51”} if I had OPs, the first thing I’d do is kick all the useless people such as myself
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:08’13”} * IlumiNaughty sets mode +b IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:09’13”} ha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:09’33”} I suppose I can give you ops.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:10’28”} * IlumiNaughty has kicked IlumiNaughty from #forum (and STAY out you useless pig)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’27”} haha
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’30”} haha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’34”} was adding you to auto ops
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’54”} https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CvnjSD6tecg?feature=share
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:12’03”} you should be auto opped from now on
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:15’53”} haha perma-banned from #rebelYell
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:16’12”} they did not like my political argumentns
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:17’27”} really?!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:17’30”} when?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:17’47”} dunno, few days ago
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:18’05”} you were pretty Good with political dialogue
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:18’23”} I think that’s `Fred` & not `Goshzilla` (ad hoc) rules
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:18’35”} * I think that’s `Fred`*’s* & not `Goshzilla`*’s* (ad hoc) rules
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’12”} oh
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’14”} yep
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’22”} <+IlumiNaughty> Trump ranwild defecits even BEFORE the TrumpDemic
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’24”} auto op works when you `/join`
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’27”} <@Fred> IlumiNaughty, you’re about to get shitcanned for being a gaslighting liar…we are not short on those at all
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’34”} * You were kicked by Fred (the troll doesnt work if you get banned for doing it too hard…)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’06”} thats fine, but I like sneaking up on people if the need to be kicked
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’19”} mm
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’39”} one thing is we have hordes of trolls trying to take channels over;
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’45”} they ping us out then rejoin & get ops
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’49”} taking over the channel
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’02”} thus we Like to keep many ops
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’25”} that half happened the last night – big pingout wave
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’39”} is `Libera` down for you? do you go there?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’55”} oh – now it’s back up
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:26’31”} do you use `Discord`?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:26’47”} * that half happened **last night – big pingout wave
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:28’58”} no, I barely kno what ‘the internet’ is
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’03”} ha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’19”} “The Internet is a series of tubes.”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’42”} and its all going down the tubr
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’46”} tube
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’47”} hahah
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:30’23”} watchingn the Sailingn Uma peoplel while I get ready to leave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgHWp1cbxQc
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:34’11”} ughhh, the older I get, the harder it is to put my socks on
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’04”} I’ve lost some weight that I needed to lose. am happy for that. I found out this morning shredded coconut really is 0 carb. 24 grams of saturated fat for half a cup: as much saturated fat as 7 salmon filets
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’24”} ^ `’um’i’`
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’41”} nice, coconut is a healthy fat
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’46”} like avacado
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’48”} crazy helathy fat
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’33”} well avocado has 4 grams of saturated fat –
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’57”} * well avocado has 4 grams of saturated fat *per avocado *- coconut has 24 grams per half cup
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’59”} oh, lots less
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:38’26”} a salmon filet – for reference – has 3.5 saturated fat grams
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:39’03”} one problem is coconut is being overharvested . . . I read.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:39’51”} I found a cool formula for judging the helthiness of breads, take corbohydrate grams and divide by fiber grams, you want something around 8 or less
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:40’36”} like 20G of carbs, divideded by 2 grams of fiber = 10
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:40’46”} lower number is better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:40’57”} but also watchadded sugar
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:41’58”} 21G crabs divided by 3G of fiber = 7 = helthy bread
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:42’13”} carbs not crabs
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’02”} works fine
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’14”} I see
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’47”} at least stay voiced thus people know I know you
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:45’00”} oh right
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:45’11”} good idea
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:45’34”} Thanks
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:53’59”} summers over, switching to long pants
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:54’05”} * lakitu eating shredded coconut
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:54’34”} 48°F is a little chill.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:55’13”} shredding cocnut is rough, goood thing you get it pre-shredded
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:55’19”} is it?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:55’44”} plus I heard it lasts longer like that shredeed and dry
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’20”} if you get the whole nut sometimes they are bad inside
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’21”} mm. yeah I was thinking to store
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’36”} unless you lived where they are grown
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’47”} they’re actually a drupe
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’50”} shelf stableis good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’59”} right, drupe
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:57’52”} https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yoU6iiOS0IA?feature=share
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:57’52”} <dumb_bot`> ^ ► YouTube :: Using a coconut shredder – this was dangerous!! 😬👀 :: Duration: 00:34 :: Views: 79,123 :: Uploader: Sorted Food :: Uploaded: 2024-01-19 :: 1,851 likes :: 0 favorites :: 50 comments
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:57’54”} Like cacao beans.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:59’22”} huh!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:59’41”} someone’s got to invent a better coconut shredder.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’04”} indistrial I’m sure are far better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’11”} yeah
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’22”} but poor people have even worse ones
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’39”} like this spinning thing with nails sticking out
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’54”} yea.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:01’42”} * Like c*o*c*oa* beans.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:05’11”} bye
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:05’21”} away for the day
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 09:42’38”} welcome back rat
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 10:50’44”} `efex`.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 10:50’51”} got a question to pose to you.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 10:51’24”} repost for `efex`: {central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:48’06”} * I have a *tri*lemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:07’24”} that question requires context for any meaningful response.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:10’41”} life philosophy . . . ethics . . . religion . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:11’23”} “happy medium, or minimally Good, or extremely Good” also, “happy” and “good” are not the same things
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:12’28”} also “better” for who?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:12’47”} picky picky am Eye :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:12’57”} happy medium is an established expression: Like “the sweet spot” . . . the middle of the road . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:13’11”} * happy medium is an established expression: Like “the sweet spot” . . . *”*the middle of the road*”* . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:13’28”} ** *”*happy medium*”* is an established expression: Like “the sweet spot” . . . *”*the middle of the road*”* . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:14’36”} yes, but happy, not being good, is not directly comparable
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:16’17”} it is a expression that means ‘mid extreme & radical’
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:16’26”} doh
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:17’07”} if you want to say “good medium, or minimally Good, or extremely Good” those are all comparable
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:17’28”} as 3 states of good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:17’38”} vs 2 and another thing
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:18’35”} 2 + something else needs context to connect the “not the same thing” elements
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:19’44”} if you are refering to three states of good, fine: the more good the better imho
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:24’55”} I think I have been turned to the sweet spot: the happy medium between radical Good & extreme Good . . . one reason I elect to lower diligence from radical (in the meaning stipulated) Good: imagine frugality earning wealth – that you never spend on your Wives, your Girlfriends . . . that is radicality that seems “microradical” – Like √ applied to 1/n: it exponentially goes the opposite direction;
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:26’23”} a happy medium between minimally and maximal good is also workable for comparison… “medium” is the context required to connect all three as states of good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:26’48”} at the same time I wish to configure the mid – the radical Good – & the extreme Good on a case-by-case basis: invest in that soaring stock – & minimize that carcinogen . . . for example.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:28’28”} I don’t see any support for your use of “radical” as meaning what you suggest
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:29’38”} “The noun, radical, comes from the Latin radix “root,” and in fact, radical and root are synonymous as technical terms in fields such as math and linguistics. In more everyday language, a radical is someone who has very extreme views, so you could say that their views are different from the root up. Similarly, a radical flaw or change is a fundamental one whereas a radical design or idea is very new and innovative.” is pretty standard
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:30’03”} I’m sorry you are misconceiving it: radical in mathematics – “√” – means a largely minimizing effect. √100 = 10; a decimation
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:30’46”} that is another misdefinition for the dictionary denotation I stipulated.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:31’14”} I know
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:31’42”} I am not misconcieving your use of the word, I am disputing it
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:31’44”} radical carcinogen minimization – to minimize carcinogens – for example
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:32’38”} “radical” is the polar oppostie of “extreme”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:32’43”} that is a lazy person’s definition
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:32’45”} fine as a science or math term, but in normal english radical is “extreme” (in any direction)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:33’41”} no, it is the dictionary definition used for the common language. Specialized vocabularies are only used in certain contexts imho..
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:34’14”} it is a less philosophically mature meaning that – Like other meanings – get revealed in time
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:34’50”} I’ll stick with the dictionary, but we all have personal meanings for some words
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:35’26”} mathematical “radical” means a minimization: √100 is a decimation
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:35’34”} so if you are asking about 3 states of “good” well the more good the better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:35’50”} d0h yes, we already discussed that
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:36’11”} the very very basic things Like mathematics getting inverted creates big problems later
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:36’52”} you can’t say mathematical radicals make “extreme” numbers in the same sense that quantities can be extreme meaning large
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:37’02”} happiness, not being “good” is unrelated, so “happy medium” is the place between maximum and minimum: fine
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:37’38”} free radicals are also under discussion here then
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:37’40”} Nuns for example live fastidiously; They are not extremists
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:38’35”} ”happy medium” works to describt the place between max and min, but it adds an emotional valence to it as well.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:39’10”} if you are asking about 3 states of “good” well the more good the better :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:39’51”} you are a artist with a “terminal” degree in fine arts . . . you are familiar with minimalism & maximalism.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:40’43”} sure
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:40’57”} and the place in between
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:41’46”} 3 states of anything
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:42’02”} that looks Like a Good Compare: minimalism as radicalism, maximalism as extremism – & happy medium as neither minimalist nor maximalist . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:42’30”} welcome back rat.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’02”} minimalism os somethng else as well tho
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’14”} but ok
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’46”} little versus much.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’53”} minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:46’36”} “minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)” : to me the more good the better. This only relates to “good”. The choice for max good may have for example have sad personal consequences so it might not be chosen.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:49’42”} radicalism and extremism are in normal english very similar in meaning so I have to take them out (as part of describing opposites)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:49’46”} I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: quantity for radical Good versus quality for extreme Good. the happy medium means half quantity & half quantity.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:50’24”} * I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: quantity for radical Good versus quality for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quality* & half quantity.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:50’37”} strike that
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:51’18”} “happy medium” is fine as a slang expression between minimum and maximum. It adds an unrelated emotional valance however.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:51’22”} hmmm
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’08”} “medium /mē′dē-əm/
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’08”} noun
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’09”} Something, such as an intermediate course of action, that occupies a position or represents a condition midway between extremes. “
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’28”} the word medium refers to the place in the middle
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’51”} happy is a describtion of an emotional state
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:53’23”} ** I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: *quantity of Life* for radical Good versus *quality of Life* for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quantity* & half *quality*.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:53’51”} this: “minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)” is fine tho to describe 3 positions on a continnuum
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:54’11”} *** I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: *quantity of Life* for radical Good versus *quality of Life* for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quantity *of Life** & half *quality *of Life**.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:54’56”} ok so you are not referring to “minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)” in your initial inquiry?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:55’25”} **** I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: *quantity of Life* for radical Good versus *quality of Life* for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quantity **of Life*** & half *quality **of Life***.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:55’29”} that is more what I mean
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:56’02”} radical Goodness / quantity of Life & extreme Goodness / quality of Life
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:57’15”} no comment then
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:57’24”} I see.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’04”} fabulous rainbows of well-roundedness.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’18”} for the “happy medium”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’28”} I can’t compare those: for example what is “quantity of life”?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’59”} quantity of Life? decades you live?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:00’32”} so what does lifespan have directly to do with quality of life?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:01’22”} how are they on a continuum?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:02’51”} and how would doing the least amount of good create a longer lifespan?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:03’12”} you can imagine ‘living it up’ – ‘party hearty’ – & similar expressions – costing you years from your life. consider alcoholism for example
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:03’55”} radical Good is achieving Goodness thru minimization `efex`.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’06”} * radical Good is achieving Good** thru minimization `efex`.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’33”} that is again somethig differnt
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’44”} * Ragtime^ has quit (Ping timeout)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’51”} heh – that is what I am describing
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:05’36”} minimal good is achieved through doing the least good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:06’14”} radical Good is achieved thru minimalism. cutting carcinogens for example
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:07’16”} Are you are referring to getting maximum good results from doung the least actual good, vs the same from doing the most good mthen?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:07’38”} from minimizing wrong
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:07’55”} in achieving radical (minimalist) Good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’06”} ok so are you asking “which is a better approach, minimizing bad or emphasisiing good”?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’27”} very loosely yes
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’38”} fine!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’40”} haha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’48”} 20 minutes later!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’58”} those to me are the same thing
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:10’12”} yes: words are verry specific :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:10’46”} * Ragtime^ (~IceChat95@ip68-225-199-130.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:11’38”} I think configuring radical (minimalist) Good – happy medium Good – & exterme Good on a *case-by-case* basis might be best
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:12’19”} this is a soaring stock: buy a lot. that is a known carcinogen: minimize it radically.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:13’13”} both those things create a result moving (something being measured) into a state of having more good and less bad.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:13’46”} but sure they are two methods
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:13’57”} well imagine cooking: you add the most for your favorite flavor . . . this does not include removing the unhealthy ingredients from it. those two are separate.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:14’56”} flavour vs health are not the same thing tho
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:15’39”} costeffectiveness versus splurging
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:15’42”} they are two methods. I can agree on that ok?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:15’59”} they both contribute to how Good the food is
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:16’43”} * costeffectiveness versus *indulgence*
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:17’08”} in most any circumstance the method the get the most good will be different.. so your case by case approach is imho the norm.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:17’22”} “they are two methods. I can agree on that ok”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:18’02”} I worry phenethylamines have sullied our diligence . . . creating mimickry diligence & creating too much stridence . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:19’53”} that’s life
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’00”} * Topic for #forum is: ⚜ #Forum ⚜ cbn.com/prayer ⚜ archive.org ⚜ Asking for prayers for LionClan & Efex’s Mom! ⚜ Welcome backer Friida! Welcome back ControlFreq! ⚜
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’00”} * Topic for #forum set by lakitu (Fri Sep 6 05:09:23 2024)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’42”} education helps: external context creates a place to observe self outside of chemically induced personal states
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:22’17”} * lakitu has changed the topic to: ⚜ #Forum ⚜ cbn.com/prayer ⚜ archive.org ⚜ Asking for prayers for LionClan & Efex’s Mom! ⚜ Cost-Effectiveness vs. Indulgence ⚜ Welcome back ControlFr
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:22’46”} * lakitu has changed the topic to: ⚜ #Forum ⚜ cbn.com/prayer ⚜ archive.org ⚜ Asking for prayers for LionClan & Efex’s Mom! ⚜ Cost-Effectiveness vs. Indulgence ⚜
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:23’24”} thus the book burning right wing extremist situation is a current issue. :-(
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:24’31”} <ragtime^> It is the leftists who are bigger on censorship imho.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:24’53”} what did this mean?: {central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’42”} education helps: external context creates a place to observe self outside of chemically induced personal states
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:25’33”} Ragtime^: you are entitled to your personal opionin :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’13”} “vducation helps: external context creates a place to observe self outside of chemically induced personal states” was in response to “I worry phenethylamines have sullied our diligence . . . creating mimickry diligence & creating too much stridence . . . “\
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’24”} Ragtime^: the conservative position – that is the best I’ve heard – is **edify**, *educate* – don’t outlaw, regulate . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’32”} <ragtime^> Thank you. I am surprised at even that concession.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’38”} ha.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’54”} ? what concession?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:27’09”} you can think what you like :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:27’14”} <ragtime^> lakitu: The issue is slippery. Whether left wing or right wing, it is usually the Jews behind censorship.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:29’27”} “conservative position – that is the best I’ve heard – is **edify**, *educate* – don’t outlaw, regulate “ very true, and fine. The loss of the Conservative party to MAGA however has created a situation where conservatism is not currently a force in play in the USA it appears. other places sure it exists.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:31’18”} * Ragtime^: *I agree with our *conservative position**: ****edify**, *educate* – don’t outlaw, regulate . . .
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