From a dialogue on Libera in ##politics overnite ⸻ I am `lakitu`:

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:44’48”} <violetjewel> hopefully, there will be some leader/movement in palestine/gaza who/that lead palestinians out of this notion that a one-state solution (aka genociding israel) is not a viable option and that a peaceful two-state solution is the only option while every other muslim nation to the north-east has realized that israel isn’t going to disappear. hamas, the governing body of palestine, would in theory

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:44’50”} <violetjewel> attempt to preserve the lives of the people they govern, and yet they constantly pressure the palestinians into intifadas while indiscriminantly firing rockets over the border and then weaponizing the deaths of their own “people” (if you can even call palestinians that) as martyrs while engaging in guerilla terrorism and operating out of civilian infrastructure and storing their weapons under

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:44’52”} <violetjewel> schools, mosques, and hospitals. I’m not saying the Likud is perfect, but the only way forward is a peaceful 2-state solution, and that starts with Palestinians reclaiming their government from guerilla terrorists who want them to be dead martyrs and constantly push for intifadas and genocide.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:50’07”} <violetjewel> Ebert: Have you heard of this thing called COVID-19?

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:50’22”} <lakitu> Violet’s got some real political sophistication ⸻ & for such a young age! 💝

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:57’05”} <violetjewel> After a pandemic, if you don’t deficit spend (aka stimulate) then you’re going into a recession / economic collapse. COVID-19 has been hard on us all, and yet that’s hardly Biden’s fault. Investing in the chips act was a wise long-term economic investment. although I do believe there was a bit too much stimulation, america survived far better than many other countries. I do understand that blue

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:57’07”} <violetjewel> collar and lower-class people are feeling the effects from inflation. And that’s tough. I think parts of Harris’ plan to support small businesses, startups, and families are wise, while potentially other aspects such as her economic plans for housing and potentially categorical price caps may be a bit aggressive.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’14”} <violetjewel> recession -> stimulate -> inflation … sucks but that’s that. Of course, America could have dealt with it much more deftly if Trump hadn’t burdened the budget and then refused to cooperate with Biden’s admin after Trump lost 2020 while he was trying to overthrow the election via various abuses of power and manipulation tactics that ultimately failed

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’33”} <violetjewel> *pandemic -> stimulate -> inflation*

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’52”} <spynxic> Ponzi 101

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’58”} <lakitu> wow: *looks up CHIPS act*

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:00’33”} <lakitu> * *looks up CHIPS act*: wow.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:09’14”} <lakitu> a command economy ⸻ as an extreme example ⸻ is anti supply & anti demand by artificial production cost manipulation for example . . . what Adam Smith taught was: Let the invisible hand of the nationstate’s supply & demand make prices what they ought. were a business to overcharge? buy from someone else. were a business to be unclean? buy from someone who certifies their product meets certain cleanliness standards . .

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:09’14”} <lakitu> . were a business to not pay enough? work somewhere else ⸻ or start your own business. *do not regulate these things: edify & educate these things ⸻ citing the standard labels ⸻ thus you democratize reasoning for each decision rather than try to impose large scale micromanagement by central planning.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’05”} <IndyJoenz> !findquote penis

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’05”} <makhno> 20 matches, last 5: 1791 2059 2105 2648 2705

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’05”} <makhno> quote 2705 by wroathe: <donky> i envy your penis, sir.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’55”} <violetjewel> try living in a country that doesn’t have regulations that cars must have carbon capture devices or regulate food standards. while capitalism does optimize goods and distribution because of competition and consumers voting with their dollar, unregulated capitalism is not viable in a globalized world.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:15’57”} <violetjewel> market meddling is one thing. surgical price caps (eg, insulin caps that trump and biden both mandated from insurance providers) and sane regulations are another

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:21’42”} <lakitu> VioleJjewel: were your populace to not be privvy to ecological threats like CO2 emissions & be edified to practice that responsibility they learned in their lives… then you are at a very small number people in your country trying to manage those travel/energy decisions for ⸻ in America ⸻ 333,000,000 people . . . were the populace to be edified & educated they could piece together the best plan for themselves . .

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:21’42”} <lakitu> . ‘voting’ with each choice they make ⸻ having 333,000,000 heads put together . . . rather maybe a few thousand heads . . . we actually have 3rd parties establish food standards . . . there are maybe 3 vegan labels I’ve seen for example . . . none are authored by the government . . . they are specialists with expertise

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:22’25”} <kmh> violetjewel, in the case of insulin they just need to open the market

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:23’08”} <kmh> allow reimports from mexico and canada to be sold the across the US and get foreign manufacturers involved

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:23’27”} <kmh> then you may not need a price cap to begin with

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:25’21”} <lakitu> conservatives ⸻ noted for their economic sapience/wisdom ⸻ outnumber liberals 76% to 24% among elders . . . the accepted wisest cohort among age groups . . . it is sapient to follow elders’ lead . . .

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:26’58”} <violetjewel> lakitu: if you decide to not eat vegan, you’re not likely to die. if you die severe food poisoning or get bone tuberculosis / meningitis / kidney failure from from – eg – raw milk when it could have been prevented, that is just immoral. Short-term economic gain will always be valued by a select few at the great expense of the many.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:27’07”} <violetjewel> die from*

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:27’49”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Why are there crossout escape codes in your messages?

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:27’55”} <IndyJoenz> strikeout* or whatever

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:28’03”} <violetjewel> kmh: that would probably help. insurance in america is so … bleeped

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:29’04”} <violetjewel> I think it’s just long dashes —test … nvm. something weird

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:29’16”} <lakitu> IndyJoenz: hi. you sound like you mean the dashes.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:30’03”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Ah, yes. I suppose it’s extra wide characters being rendered in a fixed width temrinal. They all look like this: https://0x0.st/X3RH.png

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:30’35”} <lakitu> they are three-em dashes.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:30’56”} <violetjewel> you can use — instead of – eg “hello—this is an interjection—and good bye” or “hello – this is an interjection – and good bye”, but the one you use like … runs into the next letter and slices it in twain

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’20”} <IndyJoenz> how freaking wide do dashes need to be? I use — because I grew up with a typerwriter I guess

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’22”} <lakitu> ah: your client is misrendering them . . . Good to know.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’37”} <lakitu> * *mm*: your client is misrendering them . . . Good to know.

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’58”} <violetjewel> see https://i.imgur.com/UQJUKS3.png

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:32’25”} <violetjewel> yeah — is also interchangeable with —

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:32’46”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Either the client (irssi), terminal (iterm2 on macos), or both. Or maybe gnu screen is mucking with it, who knows

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:32’49”} <IndyJoenz> there are so many layers to these things

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:33’09”} <violetjewel> terminal renders the font. I use st with FiraCode and a few ligatures.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:33’09”} <IndyJoenz> layers that need wide character support retrofitted in

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’01”} <lakitu> it is either your font or your IRC client (or both). I am in `hexchat` which renders the three-em dash.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’40”} <violetjewel> screen and irssi just throw bytes and escape codes at the terminal that renders them. it’s the terminal. Perhaps non-monospace font clients (eg hexchat (yep- guessed it :D)) fair better

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’46”} <lakitu> or as you’re saying: the terminal / other ‘layers’

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’48”} <IndyJoenz> I need to get my head better around how variable width unicode characters work, especially with unix terminals

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:35’33”} <lakitu> I’m in a Palatino Lintoype small-caps font in `hexchat` . . .

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’09”} <IndyJoenz> violetjewel: You would think that screen and irssi just throw bytes unmodified at the terminal. However, in my experience, that is not always the case. I have seen newer unicode characters not render correctly inside of screen, and various ncurses programs. I think it has to do with being compiled against something for Utf-8 support, but using an older Unicode standard.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’21”} <IndyJoenz> but they render in the terminal fine otherwise

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’42”} <IndyJoenz> Something about screen being aware of every character it prints

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’50”} <violetjewel> I love my ligatures: -> <=== <–> www 0x0 /= /\ \/ <> … <= >= != =~ [] || *** === ==== —- https://i.imgur.com/HO3bQRt.png

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:42’28”} <IndyJoenz> violetjewel: those are pretty looking. How are you doing that? Terminal setting?

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:42’49”} <IndyJoenz> one of those newfangled fancy terminals with hardware rendering and no configuration screen

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:43’05”} <IndyJoenz> only configuration file

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:43’34”} <violetjewel> IndyJoenz: you have to use a font and a terminal that supports them. I’m using FiraCode Nerd, which supports them, and I patched st to support ligatures.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:43’48”} <IndyJoenz> nice

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:44’03”} <violetjewel> most modern terminals support ligatures in some capacity.. kitty, etc. I can’t keep up with all of the names.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:45’36”} <IndyJoenz> oh, nice. my terminal supports it. thank you for pointing me in the right direction

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:45’44”} <lakitu> VioletJewel: may i unbuckle myself from the chat & pm re the ligatures & something related? at least to describe it?

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:51’17”} <violetjewel> lakitu: haha sure my cat started demanding attention and stabbing her sharp bengal needle claws into my leg.. that’s what I get for turning on the light.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:51’42”} <lakitu> oh no ⸻ BAD KITTY!!

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:05’44”} <IndyJoenz> hexnewbie: Yeah, but who cares about unix philosophy. I want convenience and I want it now, and I don’t want to learn anything new!

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:06’24”} <IndyJoenz> hexnewbie: wait, does it actually do its own backend that it connects to? Or does /detach integrate with screen or something?

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:06’50”} <IndyJoenz> one per channel? jesus

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:08’11”} <IndyJoenz> when I first discovered screen it took me a while to remember ^A d to detach. I think if I’d had /detach I would have gone for that instead, retarding my education

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:09’40”} <title> [ Kadyrov Claims 1 Cybertruck Remotely Disabled by Musk, Others Sent to Ukraine ]

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:10’50”} <IndyJoenz> sounds like a trojan horse. Drive your cybertrucks to the battlefield, have them remotely disabled at a critical moment

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:10’56”} <IndyJoenz> elon sux

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:11’28”} <IndyJoenz> true

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:11’49”} <IndyJoenz> Or pack them with explosives like the Israelis did

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:13’14”} <title> [ Project Analyzing Human Language Usage Shuts Down Because ‘Generative AI Has Polluted the Data’ ]

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:14’46”} <nucranium> hexnewbie: we had the theory two days ago that Kadyrov broke it in some stupid way is lying to save face

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:16’02”} <IndyJoenz> The old “user error,” when actually it’s the design that sucks. But let’s blame the user for it breaking

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:18’11”} <lakitu> couple typos: a command economy ⸻ as an extreme example ⸻ is anti supply & anti demand by artificial production cost manipulation for example . . . what Adam Smith taught was: Let the invisible hand of the nationstate’s supply & demand make prices what they ought. **were a business to overcharge? buy from someone else. were a business to be unclean? buy from someone who certifies their product meets certain cleanlin

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:18’11”} <lakitu> ess standards . . . were a business to not pay enough? work somewhere else ⸻ or start your own business. ***do not regulate these things: edify & educate these things ⸻ citing the standard labels ⸻ thus you democratize reasoning for each decision rather than try to impose large scale micromanagement by central planning.***

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:19’45”} <IndyJoenz> You really need to do some kind of regulation of capitalism. Otherwise people will just ruin the environment, price fix, die in unsafe working conditions, etc.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:19’51”} <IndyJoenz> none of that is great

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:19’58”} <nucranium> maybe tried to put Chechen gas in his electric truck

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:21’55”} <IndyJoenz> RCP has Harris +1.0 in Pennsylvania. Finally

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:21’59”} <IndyJoenz> biggest lead yet there, I think

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:23’15”} <IndyJoenz> RCP polling average, that is. Some of the individual polls have her up +4 and +5 points in PA. I really hope that state doesn’t ruin shit for everyone

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:23’35”} <IndyJoenz> Florida 2000 was traumatic enough

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:27’55”} <IndyJoenz> It’s the long odds that pay off!

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:29’23”} <IndyJoenz> I would very much like to see Texas unretard itself and beome a civlized state again. It has become markedly worse since it became red

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:30’11”} <IndyJoenz> so much corruption, rights going byebye. Shit infrastructure. Shit voting rights. Just shit all around since Ann Richards left

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:31’46”} <IndyJoenz> I think Texas is still a ways away. If Ted Cruz loses I will be surprised.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:32’17”} <nucranium> do you think Texas will come in to play in the EC before Florida?

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:33’11”} <IndyJoenz> nucranium: not really. Florida is closer to purple. Maybe Gen Z is a wildcard in this election, though

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:40’05”} <IndyJoenz> Bush/Cheney for Harris!

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> `IndyJoenz`: People ‘vote’: you don’t Like a business being anti-environmentalist? ‘vote’: buy from another business who meets your standard. you don’t Like they don’t reveal their environmental practices? ‘vote’: buy from a business who publishes that information for independent parties to screen & award standard seals. you don’t Like a standard bearer? ‘vote’ by following what you think is a better standard. you can apply

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> these examples to your other examples . . . these are artificial market ⸻ business ⸻ supply & demand conditions: not the real thing. ‘wouldn’t it be nice were there 8 hour work days & weekends off?’ We could arrest People ⸻ imprison Them ⸻ make Them pay large fines . . . *OR:* We could create a culture that appreciates leisure time: Family time ⸻ social time ⸻ Romance time *by *edification* & *educ

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> ation** who *’vote’*: choose to help the companies who practice this & boycott the companies who don’t in order to foster 8 hour work days & weekends off. were there none who do this . . . you could start such a business . . . were a *real* ⸻ unartificial ⸻ market demanding the right amount for the supply via that business . . . try to apply these examples to your examples ⸻ I will leave that exercise to the reade

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> r . . .

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’35”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I would rather stop them before the river is ruined.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’39”} <IndyJoenz> Maybe I’m just a conservative like that

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’46”} <IndyJoenz> you know, conserving the environment

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:42’15”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I am not an anarchist

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:43’14”} <IndyJoenz> hexnewbie: they should be on stage commenting on porn together

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:43’17”} <IndyJoenz> it would be so maga

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:44’31”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I am aware of supply and demand and market forces. I am also aware of the history of industrialization, which is why all of that is a bullshit way of dealing with problems (no offense)

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:45’07”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: at least, certain problems, like the ones I mentioned

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:45’11”} <title> [ Gen Z’s First Comedy Show (4m7s) Taylor Tomlinson ]

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:51’47”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: In other words, the fantasy that unregulated capitalism leads to utopia and solves all problems, is just that: religion, a fantasy, make-belief fairy tale. Absolutist thinking. I say this as a capitalist. When left to its own devices, businesses exploit and eat people alive.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’52”} <IndyJoenz> It’s just as fantastical thinking as hardcore communism

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’54”} <lakitu> IndyJoenz: you could circumvent *edification* ⸻ *education* for your People . . . swing to action by forcing: prior to your people’s edification & education ⸻ hold your thumb to the river eyeballing how it should be ⸻ & ⸻ with said force ⸻ make them: forcibly jailing ⸻ levying large fines to force this change that was not an edified ⸻ educated populace’s decision . . . with everything learned doing t

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’54”} <lakitu> hat not going to expansive edified educated enviornmental policies . . . & the experience for other things it has . . . OR: we could edifiy & educate the populace . . . maybe not stop polluting a river in an iota of time… yet edify & educate on what is involved . . . the more it’s worth: the better, more People We can get for this . . . & make a healthy decision as a People ⸻ with each required specialist being involve

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’54”} <lakitu> d in a free ⸻ including free speech ⸻ free press ⸻ free association ⸻ & other expression freedom form ⸻ to literally let the People decide what is best . . . that We ⸻ edified & educated ⸻ ‘vote’ for by buying our businesses who meet our standards . . . (& boycotting ones who do not.)

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:53’12”} <nucranium> no one reads walls of text

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:53’27”} <nucranium> ideal reply should be approximate size of line you’re replying to

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:53’40”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Yeah your text is really fucking hard to read, with all the strikeout penta-dashes and lack of line breaks or periods.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:55’51”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I recommend going to a public school and learning English punctuation

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:56’04”} <IndyJoenz> the government pays for it, you know

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:56’09”} <IndyJoenz> you could really benefit

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:56’33”} <IndyJoenz> sscout: into a translator, yes

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:57’23”} <nucranium> i can’t see ejaculate

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:57’45”} <title> [ Wine over u – original song by Melle (3m55s) Melle Baby Music ]

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:58’07”} <nucranium> arrrggh /o\

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:59’32”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Are you in a cult?

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:59’42”} <IndyJoenz> you sound like a cultie

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:00’47”} <lakitu> only the best religion `IndyJoenz`: Christianity.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:01’14”} * peirik__ (~peirik@2a02:fe1:3100:2800:c163:2403:b2f8:2d29) has joined

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:01’50”} <lakitu> * ** the best religion `IndyJoenz`: Christianity.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:03’59”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: If you are a Christian, then why do you idolize a false prophet in your faith in a free market to solve everyone’s problems? Seems antithetical to what Jesus was about

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:05’05”} <IndyJoenz> Also why did you put “* **” like that?

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:05’27”} <lakitu> I am beginning to suspect toll presence

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:05’45”} <nucranium> a toll is being taken, yes

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’05”} * nucranium has irl stuff to do

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’10”} <GomJabbar_> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631 <<=– GOP Policies kill women

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’11”} <title> [ A dramatic rise in pregnant women dying in Texas after abortion ban ]

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’37”} <lakitu> * I am beginning to suspect t*r*oll presence

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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:07’29”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I’m not trolling. I find it genuinely insulting to Christianity to put capitalism above everything else, above all of the things Jesus taught

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:07’33”} <IndyJoenz> very serious

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:08’06”} <IndyJoenz> or rather, it does not sound geuine when you preach one thing but call yourself something else

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:08’18”} <IndyJoenz> since you are preaching some other religion here. not Christianity

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:09’25”} <nucranium> jesus wanted a bull market

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:10’01”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: It does not sound genuine, I meant. Sorry. I did not mean to break your translator

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:11’49”} <spynxic> https://www.youtube.com/live/Dq-9EnpephE

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:11’49”} <title> [ Thursday Night Debate Breakdown: Munk Debate on Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism (2h7m42s) Give Them An Argument w/Ben Burgis ]

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’08”} * nucranium is now known as ChristWolf

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’10”} <ChristWolf> I have risen

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’31”} <spynxic> hexnewbie: I didn’t link a debate

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’35”} * ChristWolf is now known as nucranium

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’45”} <spynxic> I linked an analysis of propaganda

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:14’18”} * nucranium has quit (Quit: WeeChat 4.3.3)

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:14’54”} <lakitu> you used “religion” as a pejorative ⸻ meaning bad word ⸻ then said I sound Like I am in a cult ⸻ then said I ⸻ without knowing how much I pray for example ⸻ do not follow Jesus’s teachings enough ⸻ then said I practice “some other religion” . . . you have changed your & tried to change my religion three times now in around 23 minutes . . . & expect the audience not to despair at your antics . . . you m

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:14’54”} <lakitu> ake the bed you lie in.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:18’40”} * svito (~svito@archlinux/support/svito) has joined

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:18’40”} * ChanServ gives voice to svito

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:20’04”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I honestly don’t think you take your religion seriously when you express extreme capitalist absolutist views. They are not compatible. Your faith is in capitalism, not Jesus, clearly.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:21’29”} <IndyJoenz> It shows how quickly you are willing to dismiss your supposed “convictions”

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:22’03”} <IndyJoenz> it’s not a serious position to claim both.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:22’26”} <CommunistWolf> What a combination

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:22’46”} <lakitu> I Like Girls ⸻ I Like music ⸻ I Like poetry . . . I can Like many People & things without putting “faith” “in” them “not Jesus”.

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:23’43”} <CommunistWolf> In fairness, it’s not faith we want to put in girls

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:23’48”} <CommunistWolf> Huehehehe

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:24’18”} * IndyJoenz howls to the moon

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:26’01”} <IndyJoenz> 7 more hours and I can rinse/blow my nose. sigh

A new fave!

Ingredients:

• Romaine leaf or other thick, strong leaf for wraps
• Vegan hamburger (crumbles or patties diced)
• (Hot!!) taco sauce
• Taco seasoning
• Your favorite salsa
• Chile peppers (crushed flake and/or dried)
• Salt

Instructions:

• Cook meat as instructed on package, adding water in a pan to the crumbled or diced vegan hamburger then adding taco seasoning as instructed on the package
• Pull off very large sturdy leaves to use as leaf wraps (winning you 20 carbs per tortilla replaced!)
  
  When the meat is done:
  
• Add meat to each leaf wrap
• Add taco sauce, salsa, chile pepper flakes or chile pepper dried, & salt to the leaf wrap burritos

Eat! These are around 9 carbs each for my ingredients! Sating!

The same party has tried to anti JUSTICE extort my business plan.

This is ultra personal scale – the business itself!

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September18^th}

Being Christian for an embarrassing year number – studying philosophy for an embarrassing year number – & bringing JUSTICE to the East Asian race . . . I have conceived a very diligent, patient ethos concept that the one most opposite it in the world I know has tried to wrest from me.

This is furthermore an insane duration Big Dataist spree by him . . .

Please help & protect the family jewels!

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September18^th}

A very very favorite music concept I schemed up around 2008 (or earlier!) was attempted to be plagiarized . . .

The more attractive the more they try to grope is how some people approach Good . . .

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September17^th}

bergoglio’s & the fattest demon in the world’s & China’s party have attempted to wrong a very important kernel for life that is too worthwhile to let be stolen by bergoglio & the fattest demon in the world’s & China’s party.

Stop these demons stealing this concept!

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September13^th}

From yesterday – 2024_{September11^th} in `#Forum` on the Undernet IRC network:

{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:34’33”} I have a dilemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:48’06”} * I have a *tri*lemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:59’44”} * IlumiNaughty ([email protected]) has joined
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:00’18”} welcome in `Ilumi’`
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:00’38”} repost for `u’Naughty`: {central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:48’06”} * I have a *tri*lemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’10”} * IlumiNaughty holy hell, its 48° Fahrenheit outside
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’20”} ough.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’25”} * IlumiNaughty shivers
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:01’48”} free radicals!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’02”} * IlumiNaughty callsl the anti oixidents
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’05”} -i
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’34”} it’s a pretty vexing question
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’35”} be medium, not happy medium
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’50”} be a medium?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’50”} happy is too much to exect
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:02’58”} happy is too much to expect
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’00”} *laughing*
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’14”} are you serious with that: being (happy) medium?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’17”} learn to measure medium as happy
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’25”} heh
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:03’35”} lowered expectationn are the key to happiness
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:05’51”} * lakitu gives voice to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:06’23”} what do ops?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:06’42”} what, no ops?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:06’53”} that was meant as
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:07’51”} if I had OPs, the first thing I’d do is kick all the useless people such as myself
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:08’13”} * IlumiNaughty sets mode +b IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:09’13”} ha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:09’33”} I suppose I can give you ops.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:09’35”} * lakitu gives channel operator status to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:10’28”} * IlumiNaughty has kicked IlumiNaughty from #forum (and STAY out you useless pig)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’27”} haha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’28”} * IlumiNaughty ([email protected]) has joined
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’28”} * lakitu gives channel operator status to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’30”} haha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’34”} was adding you to auto ops
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’54”} https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CvnjSD6tecg?feature=share
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:11’55”} <dumb_bot`> ^ ► YouTube :: Caitlin Clark PROVING the HATERS WRONG 🔥 #caitlinclark #basketball #shorts :: Duration: 00:32 :: Views: 7 :: Uploader: ESPBEN :: Uploaded: 2024-09-07 :: 6 likes :: 0 favorites :: 0 comments
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:12’03”} you should be auto opped from now on
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:12’17”} * lakitu clicks
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:12’34”} * IlumiNaughty removes channel operator status from IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:15’53”} haha perma-banned from #rebelYell
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:16’12”} they did not like my political argumentns
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:17’27”} really?!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:17’30”} when?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:17’47”} dunno, few days ago
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:18’05”} you were pretty Good with political dialogue
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:18’23”} I think that’s `Fred` & not `Goshzilla` (ad hoc) rules
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:18’35”} * I think that’s `Fred`*’s* & not `Goshzilla`*’s* (ad hoc) rules
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:19’14”} * lakitu gives channel operator status to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’08”} * IlumiNaughty removes channel operator status from IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’12”} oh
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’14”} yep
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’22”} <+IlumiNaughty> Trump ranwild defecits even BEFORE the TrumpDemic
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’24”} auto op works when you `/join`
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’27”} <@Fred> IlumiNaughty, you’re about to get shitcanned for being a gaslighting liar…we are not short on those at all
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:20’34”} * You were kicked by Fred (the troll doesnt work if you get banned for doing it too hard…)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’06”} thats fine, but I like sneaking up on people if the need to be kicked
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’19”} mm
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’39”} one thing is we have hordes of trolls trying to take channels over;
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’45”} they ping us out then rejoin & get ops
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:21’49”} taking over the channel
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’02”} thus we Like to keep many ops
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’25”} that half happened the last night – big pingout wave
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’39”} is `Libera` down for you? do you go there?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:22’55”} oh – now it’s back up
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:26’31”} do you use `Discord`?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:26’47”} * that half happened **last night – big pingout wave
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:28’58”} no, I barely kno what ‘the internet’ is
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’03”} ha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’19”} “The Internet is a series of tubes.”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’42”} and its all going down the tubr
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’46”} tube
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:29’47”} hahah
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:30’23”} watchingn the Sailingn Uma peoplel while I get ready to leave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgHWp1cbxQc
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:30’24”} <dumb_bot`> ^ ► YouTube :: We’re making our boat 4ft longer | Step 407 :: Duration: 28:12 :: Views: 78,091 :: Uploader: Sailing Uma :: Uploaded: 2024-09-06 :: 8,046 likes :: 0 favorites :: 503 comments
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:33’41”} * pav^ ([email protected]) has joined
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:33’50”} * lakitu gives voice to pav^
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:34’09”} * pav_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:34’11”} ughhh, the older I get, the harder it is to put my socks on
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’04”} I’ve lost some weight that I needed to lose. am happy for that. I found out this morning shredded coconut really is 0 carb. 24 grams of saturated fat for half a cup: as much saturated fat as 7 salmon filets
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’24”} ^ `’um’i’`
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’41”} nice, coconut is a healthy fat
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’46”} like avacado
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:36’48”} crazy helathy fat
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’33”} well avocado has 4 grams of saturated fat –
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’36”} * Ragtime^ has quit (Quit: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’57”} * well avocado has 4 grams of saturated fat *per avocado *- coconut has 24 grams per half cup
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:37’59”} oh, lots less
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:38’26”} a salmon filet – for reference – has 3.5 saturated fat grams
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:39’03”} one problem is coconut is being overharvested . . . I read.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:39’51”} I found a cool formula for judging the helthiness of breads, take corbohydrate grams and divide by fiber grams, you want something around 8 or less
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:40’36”} like 20G of carbs, divideded by 2 grams of fiber = 10
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:40’46”} lower number is better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:40’57”} but also watchadded sugar
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:41’58”} 21G crabs divided by 3G of fiber = 7 = helthy bread
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:42’13”} carbs not crabs
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:43’54”} * IlumiNaughty ([email protected]) has left
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:43’54”} * IlumiNaughty ([email protected]) has joined
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:43’55”} * lakitu gives channel operator status to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’02”} works fine
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’14”} I see
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’16”} * IlumiNaughty removes channel operator status from IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’47”} at least stay voiced thus people know I know you
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:44’52”} * lakitu gives voice to IlumiNaughty
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:45’00”} oh right
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:45’11”} good idea
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:45’34”} Thanks
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:53’59”} summers over, switching to long pants
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:54’05”} * lakitu eating shredded coconut
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:54’34”} 48°F is a little chill.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:55’13”} shredding cocnut is rough, goood thing you get it pre-shredded
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:55’19”} is it?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:55’44”} plus I heard it lasts longer like that shredeed and dry
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’20”} if you get the whole nut sometimes they are bad inside
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’21”} mm. yeah I was thinking to store
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’36”} unless you lived where they are grown
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’47”} they’re actually a drupe
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’50”} shelf stableis good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:56’59”} right, drupe
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:57’52”} https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yoU6iiOS0IA?feature=share
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:57’52”} <dumb_bot`> ^ ► YouTube :: Using a coconut shredder – this was dangerous!! 😬👀 :: Duration: 00:34 :: Views: 79,123 :: Uploader: Sorted Food :: Uploaded: 2024-01-19 :: 1,851 likes :: 0 favorites :: 50 comments
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:57’54”} Like cacao beans.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:59’22”} huh!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 06:59’41”} someone’s got to invent a better coconut shredder.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’04”} indistrial I’m sure are far better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’11”} yeah
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’22”} but poor people have even worse ones
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’39”} like this spinning thing with nails sticking out
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:00’54”} yea.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:01’42”} * Like c*o*c*oa* beans.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 07:05’11”} bye
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 10:50’44”} `efex`.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 10:50’51”} got a question to pose to you.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 10:51’24”} repost for `efex`: {central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 05:48’06”} * I have a *tri*lemma . . . to describe it I must stipulate that we understand “radical” – as in the mathematical radical “√” – is the opposite of extreme: meaning minimal; when you understand that: is it better to be happy medium, or radically Good, or extremely Good?
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:07’24”} that question requires context for any meaningful response.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:10’41”} life philosophy . . . ethics . . . religion . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:11’23”} “happy medium, or minimally Good, or extremely Good” also, “happy” and “good” are not the same things
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:12’28”} also “better” for who?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:12’47”} picky picky am Eye :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:12’57”} happy medium is an established expression: Like “the sweet spot” . . . the middle of the road . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:13’11”} * happy medium is an established expression: Like “the sweet spot” . . . *”*the middle of the road*”* . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:13’28”} ** *”*happy medium*”* is an established expression: Like “the sweet spot” . . . *”*the middle of the road*”* . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:14’36”} yes, but happy, not being good, is not directly comparable
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:16’17”} it is a expression that means ‘mid extreme & radical’
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:16’26”} doh
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:17’07”} if you want to say “good medium, or minimally Good, or extremely Good” those are all comparable
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:17’28”} as 3 states of good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:17’38”} vs 2 and another thing
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:18’35”} 2 + something else needs context to connect the “not the same thing” elements
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:19’44”} if you are refering to three states of good, fine: the more good the better imho
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:24’55”} I think I have been turned to the sweet spot: the happy medium between radical Good & extreme Good . . . one reason I elect to lower diligence from radical (in the meaning stipulated) Good: imagine frugality earning wealth – that you never spend on your Wives, your Girlfriends . . . that is radicality that seems “microradical” – Like √ applied to 1/n: it exponentially goes the opposite direction;
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:26’23”} a happy medium between minimally and maximal good is also workable for comparison… “medium” is the context required to connect all three as states of good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:26’48”} at the same time I wish to configure the mid – the radical Good – & the extreme Good on a case-by-case basis: invest in that soaring stock – & minimize that carcinogen . . . for example.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:28’28”} I don’t see any support for your use of “radical” as meaning what you suggest
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:29’38”} “The noun, radical, comes from the Latin radix “root,” and in fact, radical and root are synonymous as technical terms in fields such as math and linguistics. In more everyday language, a radical is someone who has very extreme views, so you could say that their views are different from the root up. Similarly, a radical flaw or change is a fundamental one whereas a radical design or idea is very new and innovative.” is pretty standard
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:30’03”} I’m sorry you are misconceiving it: radical in mathematics – “√” – means a largely minimizing effect. √100 = 10; a decimation
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:30’46”} that is another misdefinition for the dictionary denotation I stipulated.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:31’14”} I know
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:31’42”} I am not misconcieving your use of the word, I am disputing it
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:31’44”} radical carcinogen minimization – to minimize carcinogens – for example
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:32’38”} “radical” is the polar oppostie of “extreme”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:32’43”} that is a lazy person’s definition
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:32’45”} fine as a science or math term, but in normal english radical is “extreme” (in any direction)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:33’41”} no, it is the dictionary definition used for the common language. Specialized vocabularies are only used in certain contexts imho..
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:34’14”} it is a less philosophically mature meaning that – Like other meanings – get revealed in time
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:34’50”} I’ll stick with the dictionary, but we all have personal meanings for some words
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:35’26”} mathematical “radical” means a minimization: √100 is a decimation
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:35’34”} so if you are asking about 3 states of “good” well the more good the better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:35’50”} d0h yes, we already discussed that
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:36’11”} the very very basic things Like mathematics getting inverted creates big problems later
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:36’52”} you can’t say mathematical radicals make “extreme” numbers in the same sense that quantities can be extreme meaning large
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:37’02”} happiness, not being “good” is unrelated, so “happy medium” is the place between maximum and minimum: fine
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:37’38”} free radicals are also under discussion here then
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:37’40”} Nuns for example live fastidiously; They are not extremists
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:38’35”} ”happy medium” works to describt the place between max and min, but it adds an emotional valence to it as well.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:39’10”} if you are asking about 3 states of “good” well the more good the better :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:39’51”} you are a artist with a “terminal” degree in fine arts . . . you are familiar with minimalism & maximalism.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:40’43”} sure
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:40’57”} and the place in between
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:41’46”} 3 states of anything
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:42’02”} that looks Like a Good Compare: minimalism as radicalism, maximalism as extremism – & happy medium as neither minimalist nor maximalist . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:42’30”} welcome back rat.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’02”} minimalism os somethng else as well tho
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’14”} but ok
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’46”} little versus much.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:43’53”} minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:46’36”} “minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)” : to me the more good the better. This only relates to “good”. The choice for max good may have for example have sad personal consequences so it might not be chosen.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:49’42”} radicalism and extremism are in normal english very similar in meaning so I have to take them out (as part of describing opposites)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:49’46”} I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: quantity for radical Good versus quality for extreme Good. the happy medium means half quantity & half quantity.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:50’24”} * I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: quantity for radical Good versus quality for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quality* & half quantity.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:50’37”} strike that
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:51’18”} “happy medium” is fine as a slang expression between minimum and maximum. It adds an unrelated emotional valance however.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:51’22”} hmmm
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’08”} “medium /mē′dē-əm/
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’08”} noun
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’09”} Something, such as an intermediate course of action, that occupies a position or represents a condition midway between extremes. “
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’28”} the word medium refers to the place in the middle
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:52’51”} happy is a describtion of an emotional state
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:53’23”} ** I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: *quantity of Life* for radical Good versus *quality of Life* for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quantity* & half *quality*.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:53’51”} this: “minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)” is fine tho to describe 3 positions on a continnuum
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:54’11”} *** I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: *quantity of Life* for radical Good versus *quality of Life* for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quantity *of Life** & half *quality *of Life**.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:54’56”} ok so you are not referring to “minimal vs medium vs maximum (states of good)” in your initial inquiry?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:55’25”} **** I think radical Good (meaning minimalism) cp. extreme Good (re maximalism) is better understood by a tradeoff between the two: *quantity of Life* for radical Good versus *quality of Life* for extreme Good. the happy medium means half *quantity **of Life*** & half *quality **of Life***.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:55’29”} that is more what I mean
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:56’02”} radical Goodness / quantity of Life & extreme Goodness / quality of Life
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:57’15”} no comment then
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:57’24”} I see.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’04”} fabulous rainbows of well-roundedness.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’18”} for the “happy medium”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’28”} I can’t compare those: for example what is “quantity of life”?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 11:58’59”} quantity of Life? decades you live?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:00’32”} so what does lifespan have directly to do with quality of life?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:01’22”} how are they on a continuum?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:02’51”} and how would doing the least amount of good create a longer lifespan?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:03’12”} you can imagine ‘living it up’ – ‘party hearty’ – & similar expressions – costing you years from your life. consider alcoholism for example
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:03’55”} radical Good is achieving Goodness thru minimization `efex`.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’06”} * radical Good is achieving Good** thru minimization `efex`.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’33”} that is again somethig differnt
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:04’51”} heh – that is what I am describing
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:05’36”} minimal good is achieved through doing the least good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:06’14”} radical Good is achieved thru minimalism. cutting carcinogens for example
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:07’16”} Are you are referring to getting maximum good results from doung the least actual good, vs the same from doing the most good mthen?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:07’38”} from minimizing wrong
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:07’55”} in achieving radical (minimalist) Good
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’06”} ok so are you asking “which is a better approach, minimizing bad or emphasisiing good”?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’27”} very loosely yes
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’38”} fine!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’40”} haha
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’48”} 20 minutes later!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:09’58”} those to me are the same thing
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:10’12”} yes: words are verry specific :-)
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:11’38”} I think configuring radical (minimalist) Good – happy medium Good – & exterme Good on a *case-by-case* basis might be best
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:12’19”} this is a soaring stock: buy a lot. that is a known carcinogen: minimize it radically.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:13’13”} both those things create a result moving (something being measured) into a state of having more good and less bad.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:13’46”} but sure they are two methods
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:13’57”} well imagine cooking: you add the most for your favorite flavor . . . this does not include removing the unhealthy ingredients from it. those two are separate.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:14’56”} flavour vs health are not the same thing tho
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:15’39”} costeffectiveness versus splurging
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:15’42”} they are two methods. I can agree on that ok?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:15’59”} they both contribute to how Good the food is
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:16’43”} * costeffectiveness versus *indulgence*
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:17’08”} in most any circumstance the method the get the most good will be different.. so your case by case approach is imho the norm.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:17’22”} “they are two methods. I can agree on that ok”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:18’02”} I worry phenethylamines have sullied our diligence . . . creating mimickry diligence & creating too much stridence . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:19’53”} that’s life
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’00”} * Topic for #forum is: ⚜ #Forum ⚜ cbn.com/prayer ⚜ archive.org ⚜ Asking for prayers for LionClan & Efex’s Mom! ⚜ Welcome backer Friida! Welcome back ControlFreq! ⚜
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’00”} * Topic for #forum set by lakitu (Fri Sep 6 05:09:23 2024)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’42”} education helps: external context creates a place to observe self outside of chemically induced personal states
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:22’17”} * lakitu has changed the topic to: ⚜ #Forum ⚜ cbn.com/prayer ⚜ archive.org ⚜ Asking for prayers for LionClan & Efex’s Mom! ⚜ Cost-Effectiveness vs. Indulgence ⚜ Welcome back ControlFr
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:22’46”} * lakitu has changed the topic to: ⚜ #Forum ⚜ cbn.com/prayer ⚜ archive.org ⚜ Asking for prayers for LionClan & Efex’s Mom! ⚜ Cost-Effectiveness vs. Indulgence ⚜
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:23’24”} thus the book burning right wing extremist situation is a current issue. :-(
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:24’31”} <ragtime^> It is the leftists who are bigger on censorship imho.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:24’53”} what did this mean?: {central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:21’42”} education helps: external context creates a place to observe self outside of chemically induced personal states
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:25’33”} Ragtime^: you are entitled to your personal opionin :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’13”} “vducation helps: external context creates a place to observe self outside of chemically induced personal states” was in response to “I worry phenethylamines have sullied our diligence . . . creating mimickry diligence & creating too much stridence . . . “\
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’24”} Ragtime^: the conservative position – that is the best I’ve heard – is **edify**, *educate* – don’t outlaw, regulate . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’32”} <ragtime^> Thank you. I am surprised at even that concession.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’38”} ha.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:26’54”} ? what concession?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:27’09”} you can think what you like :-)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:27’14”} <ragtime^> lakitu: The issue is slippery. Whether left wing or right wing, it is usually the Jews behind censorship.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:29’27”} “conservative position – that is the best I’ve heard – is **edify**, *educate* – don’t outlaw, regulate “ very true, and fine. The loss of the Conservative party to MAGA however has created a situation where conservatism is not currently a force in play in the USA it appears. other places sure it exists.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) pm 12:31’18”} * Ragtime^: *I agree with our *conservative position**: ****edify**, *educate* – don’t outlaw, regulate . . .
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A large language concept quantity plagiarism has been attempted – things that my philosophy mentor estimates could affect over 3 trillion in estimate for the future.

East Asians & Scott M. are the known party.

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September10^th}

My entire Walk of Life!

A 21 year torment’s nest egg!

Same nasty one . . .

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_Setember5^th

A Famous adversary nationstate foreign leader attempted to plagiariize a inexpressibly important concept for ethics – & before that a concept that took me eight years working around full time – except around 2 years . . . . to devise.

Watch out: that’s a nasty one . . .

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September4^th}

My erect penis & orgasming testes are the main organ I wield: not my brain: my erect penis – orgasming testes – grant me immortality.

Let’s do it all! It’s how We achieve immortality!

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September4^th}

A metatphysics that took me an embarrassing year number to craft has suffered a mass scale metaphysics plagiarism attempt by the purported Scott McGann . . .

This conceptry means a lot a lot A LOT a lot to me & I ask for that much more proportionate PROTECTION & help planting those ‘broccoli seeds’ were they ought to be planted . . .

⸻ Valentyn_Joe
USA_Minnesota
2024_{September4^th}