I first conceived English “Minnesota” from German “minne” – meaning Love, especially Sexual Love – & performed oral for you for this August twenty-eighth, twenty-nineteen, in Undernet’s live public philosophy forum: #philosophical:

{09:08:30 pm:} <me> i was reappraising the very German-heavy Minnesota’s etymology. consider this:
{09:08:30 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, i can meat all the time.
{09:08:30 pm:} <irishroyalty> lol
{09:08:31 pm:} <me> .ety3 minnesinger
{09:08:34 pm:} <Botnik> “one of a class of medieval German poets who imitated the troubadours, 1825, from German minnesinger, from minne ‘love,’ especially ‘sexual love’ (from Old High German minna ‘loving memory,’ originally ‘memory,’ from Proto-Germanic *minthjo, from PIE *menti-, suffixed form of root *men- (1) ‘to think’) + singer (see singer).”
{09:08:36 pm:} <Botnik> “German minne by c. 1500 no longer was considered decent, and it became a taboo word until revived 18c. in poetic language. Compare meisitersinger.”
{09:08:39 pm:} <Botnik> “Related: Minnelied ‘love-song.'”
{09:08:40 pm:} <Botnik> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/minnesinger
{09:08:43 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: minnesinger | Origin and meaning of minnesinger by Online Etymology Dictionary
{09:08:58 pm:} <k1> ACW often individually wrapped in plastic but you can buy big chunks of the stuff. it’s very orange
{09:09:06 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, moose, caribou, pork, chickens… and of course fich
{09:09:10 pm:} <thealaskan> fish
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{09:09:56 pm:} <me> what but the most beautiful semantic drift is ‘men-‘ (think) to ‘minne-‘, Love. ^_^x
{09:09:56 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, ‘american cheese’ is a processed cheese product made of the trim ends of cheddar and some milk.
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{09:10:41 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, i usually can chickens whole, moose as chunks, pork as shreds and fish as either smoked fish sticks or rolled fillets
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{09:12:01 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, ‘american cheese’ melts more smoothly than cheddar. it doesn’t sweat out fat.
{09:12:17 pm:} <thealaskan> pretty good for cheeseburgers!
{09:12:36 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, oh, and before i had electric, i used to buy bacon in cans
{09:12:44 pm:} <k1> the typical american cheeseburger has american cheese the processed cheese product
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{09:13:10 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, i suspect it is partly that, and partly some binder or emulsifier that prevents separation
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{09:13:30 pm:} <me> (‘men-‘ (to think), i willi say.)
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{09:13:46 pm:} <henrimancini> greetings to all gathered who may be gathered
{09:13:51 pm:} <me> ((‘*men-‘.))
{09:13:53 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, there is also a swiss version of ‘american cheese’ which is routinely refered to as processed swiss cheese food
{09:14:22 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, why would that put people off cheese?
{09:14:41 pm:} <thealaskan> people milk is the perfect food for peoples
{09:15:06 pm:} <thereheis> not if your lactose-intolerant
{09:15:30 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, some women have a lot of extra milk. what do YOU think they should do with it?
{09:15:50 pm:} <me> love that thought . . .
{09:15:54 pm:} <henrimancini> merci, madame
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{09:16:16 pm:} <billgates> Some caucasians have a genetic deletion that allows them to continue digesting cheese far past puberty. Everyone, should eventually stop drinking milk.
{09:16:30 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, some women make yogurt out of it, some donate it to other mothers or hospitals.
{09:16:58 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, people used to hire wetnurses for elderly infirm people, or the recently critcally ill
{09:17:02 pm:} <thereheis> blonde yoghurt sounds great for advertising with
{09:17:04 pm:} <Herer> samovar, dear, it’s just food
{09:17:44 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, in a world before IV feeding or Ensure, it was a good idea.
{09:17:48 pm:} <Herer> probably didn’t have pumps back then
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{09:18:01 pm:} <Herer> if he was starving?
{09:18:06 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, no, they used the breasts of wet nurses
{09:18:15 pm:} <Herer> i’d rather breast feed him than let him serve me up as a roast
{09:19:18 pm:} <Herer> what about you, samovar, would you feed a man your protein discharge (jism) if he was hungry?
{09:19:19 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, lots of people who consider themselves quite the anthropologists are not really very aware of anthropological features of the lives of women.
{09:20:11 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, it has really only been the last 20 years or so that anyone considered how the lives of women migt have differed from the lives of ‘people’
{09:20:47 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, we still don’t have an equal rights amendment here in the US, so women are not actually fully people even here and now
{09:20:53 pm:} <Herer> they’ve only started to research drug interactions on women in the last twenty years, before all the research was how meds worked on men only
{09:21:38 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, not only have they not been studied, nobody ever thought that there would be a difference
{09:22:45 pm:} <Herer> speculating on what anthropologists know seems somewhat “Leakey” to me….
{09:23:06 pm:} <k1> ragtime used to say strange things about franz boas
{09:23:17 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, the first person to really DO that was a guy who noticed that the women of central american amerind groups had skeletal differences from men that were odd… and went to figure out why. Turned out that kneeling and using a primative grindstone for cornmeal caused deformity over a lifetime of kneeling and pushing with your toes, while rolling with your hands
{09:23:37 pm:} <me> Herer lolol. yours a couple posts ago…
{09:24:04 pm:} * Herer slides a mensa bead to the right for me
{09:24:25 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, there is a very interesting book about how weaving shaped the cultural customs throughout the world, depending n whether their traditional pattern were 2 or 4 handed, portable or flat.
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{09:24:46 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, it is called ‘women’s work’
{09:25:15 pm:} <me> — hahah.
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{09:25:40 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, there was no hope of general gender equality before 1961, so it is not all that stunning that we have not figured it out yet
{09:26:41 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, before 1961, women who were not celibate (or willing to commit regular infanticide) were saddled with an endless stream of small offspring. that limits your life
{09:26:46 pm:} <me> =)
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{09:27:13 pm:} <me> oo – back in a bit, something happening
{09:27:28 pm:} <thealaskan> AFTER 1961, fertility was a choice, even if that was not culturally recognized or accepted for a long time (or yet, in case of some groups)
{09:27:51 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, no problem :)
{09:28:10 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, i don’t know what you are asking
{09:28:17 pm:} <k1> 1961 seemed like a weird year
{09:28:36 pm:} <Herer> my people live in a matriarchy
{09:28:41 pm:} <thealaskan> k1, it was the year in which the pill became commercially available
{09:29:11 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, i am a female, and have raised many now-launched children
{09:29:18 pm:} <Herer> The Iroquois (Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Mohawk, Seneca) are a matriarchal society. In the Iroquois community, women were the keepers of culture. They were responsible for defining the political, social, spiritual and economic norms of the tribe.
{09:29:57 pm:} <thealaskan> ACuriousWife, np :)
{09:30:01 pm:} <Herer> we kept the guys around cuz they got good at finding food ;)
{09:30:24 pm:} <thealaskan> samovar, well not clean off, just clean off the bone
{09:30:40 pm:} * henrimancini returns with coffee…and reads “tore” and “asscheek”…whew, things escalated quickly….
{09:31:20 pm:} <Herer> i’m so glad you’re a henrimancini instead of a necromancer
{09:31:35 pm:} <thealaskan> henrimancini, lol it was just a torn muscle. people do that – i just did an exceptional job of it
{09:31:59 pm:} <Herer> thealaskan always does jobs all the way
{09:32:10 pm:} <thealaskan> Herer, for better or for worse
{09:32:21 pm:} <henrimancini> and I am glad you recovered nicely, thealaskan. and no Herer, I do not manipulate death energy. and as for your inquiry, acuriouswife…I can neither confirm nor deny…
{09:33:31 pm:} <henrimancini> hopefully you did, samovar, it is a….oww ! jeez, at least I could eat the trout afterwards… @_@
{09:33:59 pm:} <irishroyalty> hello
{09:34:01 pm:} <irishroyalty> hehe
{09:34:11 pm:} <henrimancini> greetings irishroyalty
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{09:35:32 pm:} <irishroyalty> i’M Sleepy
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{09:35:58 pm:} <thealaskan> I have progressed from taking a break to flagrantly loafing! Life calls guys :) be well
{09:36:00 pm:} <henrimancini> sleepy monster consumed irishroyalty. whole.
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{09:39:02 pm:} <Herer> philosophy?
{09:39:06 pm:} <Herer> Hell NO
{09:39:08 pm:} <Herer> :)
{09:39:19 pm:} <henrimancini> you just made Transcendentalism cry, Herer
{09:40:22 pm:} * Herer likes Paramhansa Yogananda‎
{09:42:25 pm:} <mrsomething> Herer: Could you send me a pic of you wearing yoga pants?
{09:42:53 pm:} <henrimancini> I was about to ask you the same thing, mrsomething…jinx !
{09:43:22 pm:} <mrsomething> would you settle for pic of me wearing cargo pants?
{09:43:50 pm:} <henrimancini> too many distracting pockets
{09:44:48 pm:} <henrimancini> I’m apex predator alpha man, ACuriousWife.
{09:46:02 pm:} <henrimancini> “No matter how thin you slice it, its still baloney”
{09:47:07 pm:} <henrimancini> did you stub your toe just now ?
{09:49:02 pm:} * henrimancini isn’t sure where you have been keeping that DoSR, but it needs some cleanin’ TLC…good thing I move like a gazelle…
{09:50:13 pm:} <henrimancini> there are more things in Heaven and Earth, acuriouswife, then are dreamt of in your Philosophy….
{09:50:43 pm:} <henrimancini> and I’ve been tested, I’ve just mostly harmless…
{09:51:21 pm:} * henrimancini gives an offering to my local Tree…here’s the maple syrup I took from you, sorry
{09:54:22 pm:} <henrimancini> is that akin to a moveable feast ?
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{09:57:08 pm:} <henrimancini> I most certainly do
{09:58:04 pm:} <Her> Hello wife
{09:58:27 pm:} <henrimancini> I read that as “Romulons”
{09:59:53 pm:} * henrimancini frowns over my coffee…I may not possess your superior eloquence and breadth of knowledge, but I have some measure of common sense….
{09:59:59 pm:} <henrimancini> *cough*
{10:01:03 pm:} <henrimancini> plot twist: I’m 6’11, so when you say “little”….
{10:01:28 pm:} <henrimancini> you should my work from my Blue period…
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{10:04:32 pm:} <somedude> Apollo I lift your name on high. Hermes I lift your name on high
{10:05:54 pm:} <k> what was apollo god of?
{10:06:07 pm:} <henrimancini> sun
{10:06:38 pm:} <k> sun is way cool
{10:06:50 pm:} <henrimancini> lol. i see what you did there…
{10:10:06 pm:} <me> so the topic, here, was minne-.
{10:10:13 pm:} <me> ^_^
{10:11:29 pm:} <me> we must rediscover the true etymology of Minnesota, as being from minne- – ‘sexual love’.
{10:11:40 pm:} <me> i say ^_^xx
{10:13:08 pm:} <somedude> Apollo was also of reason/logic
{10:15:06 pm:} <me> as in the German, which Minnesota so is, “minnesinger” — again:
{10:15:09 pm:} <me> .ety3 minnesinger
{10:15:12 pm:} <Botnik> “one of a class of medieval German poets who imitated the troubadours, 1825, from German minnesinger, from minne ‘love,’ especially ‘sexual love’ (from Old High German minna ‘loving memory,’ originally ‘memory,’ from Proto-Germanic *minthjo, from PIE *menti-, suffixed form of root *men- (1) ‘to think’) + singer (see singer).”
{10:15:14 pm:} <Botnik> “German minne by c. 1500 no longer was considered decent, and it became a taboo word until revived 18c. in poetic language. Compare meisitersinger.”
{10:15:16 pm:} <Botnik> “Related: Minnelied ‘love-song.'”
{10:15:18 pm:} <Botnik> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/minnesinger
{10:15:19 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: minnesinger | Origin and meaning of minnesinger by Online Etymology Dictionary
{10:16:15 pm:} <somedude> it’s hate speech
{10:16:26 pm:} <k> I never heard a minnesinger
{10:18:05 pm:} <me> “German minne by c. 1500 no longer was considered decent, and it became a taboo word until revived 18c. in poetic language.”
{10:18:44 pm:} <k> necer heard og german ‘minne’
{10:18:49 pm:} <me> i have
{10:19:08 pm:} <k> err never heard of
{10:19:21 pm:} <me> few etymologists are brave enough to aver a taboo indecent sexual word as the etymology of a whole state
{10:19:30 pm:} <me> i hypothesize
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{10:20:50 pm:} <k> what pornography term is cognate with german ‘minne’?
{10:20:52 pm:} <me> adieux
{10:21:07 pm:} <Horatio> midget?
{10:21:50 pm:} <me> k: “Minnesota.”
{10:24:02 pm:} <me> .ety3 Minnie
{10:24:03 pm:} <Botnik> Can’t find the etymology for “Minnie”. Try https://www.etymonline.com/classic/search?q=Minnie
{10:24:05 pm:} <k> I’d bet that minnesota is from an indigenous american language than from german
{10:24:05 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: minnie | Search Online Etymology Dictionary
{10:24:26 pm:} <k> .ety minnesota
{10:24:27 pm:} <Botnik> “originally the name of the river, from Dakota (Siouan) mnisota, literally ‘cloudy water, milky water,’ from mni ‘river, stream’ + sota ‘slightly clouded.’ As the name of a U.S. territory from 1849 (admitted as a state 1858).” — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/minnesota
{10:24:28 pm:} <me> i’d bet 5x against you, k, on that
{10:24:29 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: minnesota | Origin and meaning of the name minnesota by Online Etymology Dictionary
{10:24:34 pm:} <me> you have not followed my thread
{10:25:21 pm:} <k> me .ety says I win
{10:26:07 pm:} <me> #Philosophical says otherwise
{10:26:28 pm:} <me> (re the above)
{10:26:39 pm:} <me> re-read, if you need to
{10:27:11 pm:} <me> “Over 85.0% of Minnesota’s residents are of European descent, with the largest reported ancestries being German (38.6%), Norwegian (17.0%), Irish (11.9%), and Swedish (9.8%). The Hispanic population of Minnesota is increasing, much like in other parts of the United States[8] and recent immigrants have come from all over the world, including Hmong,[
{10:27:11 pm:} <me> 9] Somalis, Vietnamese, and emigrants from the former Soviet bloc.”
{10:27:16 pm:} <k> me your own bot says rom Dakota (Siouan) mnisota
{10:28:03 pm:} <me> well i’m sorry you haven’t been able to follow the thread
{10:28:33 pm:} <me> dream as you wish
{10:29:00 pm:} <me> Dream on.
{10:29:40 pm:} <me> “Dream on.” =D
{10:31:25 pm:} <k> me a lot of US place names are from indigenous american languages
{10:32:45 pm:} <me> Such as New Germany, Minnesota?
{10:32:49 pm:} <me> or New Ulm?
{10:33:54 pm:} <k> somebody told me Canberra was from an australian aboriginal language
{10:34:32 pm:} <me> i guess you are too clouded right now to see the similarity of German “minne-” – revived in the 18 c. – to the 1849-inaugurated “Minnesota.”
{10:34:43 pm:} <me> — i am not tho
{10:34:56 pm:} <me> (18th c., i meant)
{10:35:21 pm:} <k> as a kid I thought Canberra was a great name
{10:35:37 pm:} <me> 1849-inaugrated, predominantly-German “Minnesota” i will say
{10:36:26 pm:} <me> i love it. “Minne-” – a nother anglophonic “love” word
{10:36:31 pm:} <me> word/morpheme
{10:37:24 pm:} <k> zappa did a great song about Minnesota in Freak Out
{10:38:51 pm:} <me> how could the certainty of an attributed 1800’s etymology – etymologies known to be, & plainly understood as conjecture in a big way – make you against the rediscovery of a Western word for “love”?
{10:39:02 pm:} <me> of a *NOTHER*
{10:39:10 pm:} <me> Western word for Love?
{10:39:46 pm:} <me> let us freak out to Frank Zappa & start “feeling Minnesota” haha
{10:40:14 pm:} <me> to quote another lyric
{10:41:02 pm:} * me now playing around ^_^
{10:43:00 pm:} <me> .wiki-5 minnesang
{10:43:04 pm:} <Botnik> “Minnesang (German: [ˈmɪnəˌzaŋ], ‘love song’) was a tradition of lyric- and song-writing in Germany that flourished in the Middle High German period. This period of medieval German literature began in the 12th century and continued into the 14th. People who wrote and performed Minnesang were known as Minnesänger (German: [ˈmɪnəˌzɛŋɐ], minnesingers), and a single song was called a Minnelied. The name derives from (…)”
{10:43:08 pm:} <Botnik> “minne, the Middle High German word for love, as that was Minnesang’s main subject. The Minnesänger were similar to the Provençal troubadours and northern French trouvères in that they wrote love poetry in the tradition of courtly love in the High Middle Ages.”
{10:43:17 pm:} <Botnik> — from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesang
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{10:43:18 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: Minnesang – Wikipedia
{10:45:47 pm:} <k> does english have an cognate of minne=love in old english?
{10:46:19 pm:} <me> – there you go – great contribution
{10:46:25 pm:} <me> invaluable, to me
{10:46:39 pm:} <me> invaluable contribution
{10:47:01 pm:} <me> is there an old english dictionary online? must be
{10:47:30 pm:} * me reading Britannica’s article on “minnesang”
{10:50:16 pm:} <k> the usual anglo saxon word for love was lufu pronounced luvu but I don’t know if they used this for divine love of christian God
{10:51:23 pm:} <me> this was sexual love
{10:51:59 pm:} <me> brief paste here =D:
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> Minnesinger German poet-musician See Article History Alternative Titles: Minnesänger, Minnesinger Minnesinger, German Minnesänger or Minnesinger, any of certain German poet-musicians of the 12th and 13th centuries. In the usage of these poets themselves, the term Minnesang denoted only songs dealing with courtly love (Minne); it has come to be ap
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> plied to the entire poetic-musical body, Sprüche (political, moral, and religious song) as well as Minnesang. The songs of courtly love, like the concept, came to Germany either directly from Provence or through northern France. The minnesingers, like their Romance counterparts, the troubadours and trouvères, usually composed both words and music
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> and performed their songs in open court, so that their art stood in an immediate relationship to their public. Some were of humble birth; at the other end of the social scale were men such as the emperor Henry VI, son of Frederick I Barbarossa. Most, however, were ministeriales, or members of the lower nobility, who depended on court patronage for
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> their livelihood; from the vicissitudes of such an existence come many of the motifs in their poetry. In form the music follows, in the main, the tripartite structure taken over from the Provençal canso: two identical sections, called individually Stollen and collectively Aufgesang, and a third section, or Abgesang (the terms derive from the later
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> meistersingers); the formal ratio between Aufgesang and Abgesang is variable. The basic aab pattern was subject to much variation (see Bar form). On a larger scale was the Leich, analogous to the French lai (q.v.). It was an aggregation of short stanzas (versicles), typically couplets, each line of which was sung to the same music and each versic
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> le having its own music. The Leiche were often several hundred lines long, and many incorporated religious motifs (such as the veneration of the Virgin Mary), which are also found in the shorter lyrics. Musical unity in both the Leich and the shorter forms was often achieved by the recurrence and variation of brief motifs or even entire phrases. Li
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> ke what you’re reading? Start your free trial today for unlimited access to Britannica. Some of the early songs were probably sung to troubadour melodies, because their texts closely resemble Provençal models. Yet the German songs, in the main, differ in general musical character from the Romance songs. For example, the melodies are more often bas
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> ically pentatonic (based on a five-tone scale). Popular song and Gregorian chant are other musical roots of the style. The poems of the earliest minnesinger known by name, Kürenberger (fl. 1160), show only a tint of the troubadour, for his realistic verses show a proud, imperious knight with a woman pining for his love. But by the end of the centu
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> ry the courtly love themes of the troubadours and trouvères had taken control. In the 12th century the poetry of the Thuringian Heinrich von Morungen is marked by intensity of feeling and moral involvement, and the Alsatian Reinmar the Elder gives the courtly love lyric such an expression of social ideals that he was taken by his contemporaries as
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> the most representative poet of “pure” Minnesang. Walther von der Vogelweide, one of the greatest lyric poets of the European Middle Ages, absorbed much of his teacher Reinmar’s craftsmanship, but he went far beyond the artificial conventions with which the Minnesang had been governed by introducing an element of practical realism, both in his lov
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> e poetry and in his Sprüche. By the time of Neidhart von Reuenthal, a Bavarian squire (d. c. 1250), the knight had turned his attention from the ladies of the castle to the wenches of the villages; Neidhart’s melodies likewise have a certain affinity with folk song. Whereas poets like Ulrich von Lichtenstein strove to keep the conceits of chivalry
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> alive, others—among them Reinmar von Zweter, the Marner, and Konrad von Würzburg (mid-13th century)—cultivated didactic poetry, which Walther von der Vogelweide, building on the work of earlier poets, had already raised to a high level. At the end of the 13th century stands Frauenlob (Heinrich von Meissen), who, by his versatility, his power of rh
{10:52:02 pm:} <me> etoric, and his technical refinement, points to the stylized art of the later meistersingers.
{10:52:16 pm:} <me> from Britannica
{10:52:27 pm:} <me> – “Minnesang”
{10:53:15 pm:} <me> thank you for that etymology – the biggest etymology, to me, i would consider
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{11:09:13 pm:} <me> (‘to my consideration’)
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{11:10:03 pm:} <me> slowfi: you asked for an Old English cognate of German “minne-“. try “mind”
{11:10:14 pm:} <me> .ety3 mind
{11:10:17 pm:} <Botnik> “‘that which feels, wills, and thinks; the intellect,’ late 12c., mynd, from Old English gemynd ‘memory, remembrance; state of being remembered; thought, purpose; conscious mind, intellect, intention,’ Proto-Germanic *ga-mundiz (source also of Gothic muns ‘thought,’ munan ‘to think;’ Old Norse minni ‘mind;’ German Minne (archaic) ‘love,’ originally ‘memory, loving memory’), from suffixed form of PIE root (…)”
{11:10:20 pm:} <Botnik> “*men- (1) ‘to think,’ with derivatives referring to qualities of mind or states of thought.Meaning ‘mental faculty, the thinking process’ is from c. 1300.”
{11:10:22 pm:} <Botnik> “Sense of ‘intention, purpose’ is from c. 1300.”
{11:10:24 pm:} <Botnik> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/mind
{11:10:26 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: mind | Origin and meaning of mind by Online Etymology Dictionary
{11:10:46 pm:} <me> (both cognate with Old English “gemynd”)
{11:11:14 pm:} <me> try also “minx” for a 3rd cognate of German “minne-“…
{11:11:37 pm:} <me> meaning “slut, hussy”, etc
{11:12:45 pm:} <me> 4thly, try “maid”, as in “mermaid”.
{11:14:03 pm:} <me> “slut, hussy, wench”*
{11:14:27 pm:} <me> as some other women might call a sexual woman
{11:14:43 pm:} <me> (“wench”, i men here.)
{11:15:24 pm:} <me> try also “mean”
{11:15:33 pm:} <me> & perhaps “men.”
{11:15:41 pm:} <me> or man
{11:17:00 pm:} <me> this is the motherlode – of related cognates, that is
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{11:20:07 pm:} <me> “*men- (1)
{11:20:07 pm:} <me> Proto-Indo-European root meaning “to think,” with derivatives referring to qualities and states of mind or thought.
{11:20:07 pm:} <me> It forms all or part of: admonish; Ahura Mazda; ament; amentia; amnesia; amnesty; anamnesis; anamnestic; automatic; automaton; balletomane; comment; compos mentis; dement; demonstrate; Eumenides; idiomatic; maenad; -mancy; mandarin; mania; maniac; manic; mantic; mantis; mantra; memento; mens rea; mental; mention; mentor; mind; Minerva; minnesinger; mnemonic; Mnemosyne; money; monition; monitor; monster; monument; mosaic; Muse; museum;
{11:20:07 pm:} <me> music; muster; premonition; reminiscence; reminiscent; summon.”
{11:20:11 pm:} <me> by Douglas Harper
{11:20:29 pm:} <me> on his etymoline’s page
{11:20:34 pm:} <me> etymonline’s*
{11:23:58 pm:} <me> “It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit manas- “mind, spirit,” matih “thought,” munih “sage, seer;” Avestan manah- “mind, spirit;” Greek memona “I yearn,” mania “madness,” mantis “one who divines, prophet, seer;” Latin mens “mind, understanding, reason,” memini “I remember,” mentio “remembrance;” Lithuanian mintis “thought, idea,” Old Church Slavonic mineti “to believe, think,” Russian pamjat
{11:23:58 pm:} <me> “memory;” Gothic gamunds, Old English gemynd “memory, remembrance; conscious mind, intellect.””
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> “romance (n.)
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> c. 1300, “a story, written or recited, of the adventures of a knight, hero, etc.,” often one designed principally for entertainment,” from Old French romanz “verse narrative” (Modern French roman), originally an adverb, “in the vernacular language,” from Vulgar Latin *romanice scribere “to write in a Romance language” (one developed from Latin instead of Frankish), from Latin Romanicus “of or in the Roman style,” from Romanus “Roman”
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> (see Roman).
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> The sense evolution is because medieval vernacular tales usually told chivalric adventures full of marvelous incidents and heroic deeds. In reference to literary works, often in Middle English meaning ones written in French but also applied to native compositions. Literary sense extended by 1660s to “a love story.” Meaning “adventurous quality” first recorded 1801; that of “love affair” is from 1916. Romance novel attested from 1964.
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> Compare Romance (adj.).
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> romance (v.)
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> late 14c., “recite a narrative,” from Old French romancier “narrate in French; translate into French,” from romanz (see romance (n.)). Later “invent fictitious stories” (1670s), then “be romantically enthusiastic” (1849); meaning “court as a lover” is from 1938, probably from romance (n.). Related: Romanced; romancing.
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> Romance (adj.)
{11:25:38 pm:} <me> mid-14c., “French; in the vernacular language of France” (contrasted to Latin), from Old French romanz “French; vernacular,” from Late Latin Romanice, from Latin Romanicus (see Roman). Extended 1610s to other modern tongues derived from Latin (Spanish, Italian, etc.); thus “pertaining to the languages which arose out of the Latin language of the provinces of Rome.” Compare romance (n.).”
{11:25:54 pm:} <me> “Roman (n.)
{11:25:54 pm:} <me> Old English, from Latin Romanus “of Rome, Roman,” from Roma “Rome” (see Rome). The adjective is c. 1300, from Old French Romain. The Old English adjective was romanisc, which yielded Middle English Romanisshe.
{11:25:54 pm:} <me> As a type of numeral (usually contrasted to Arabic) it is attested from 1728; as a type of lettering (based on the upright style typical of Roman inscriptions, contrasted to Gothic, or black letter, and italic) it is recorded from 1510s. Roman nose is from 1620s. Roman candle as a type of fireworks is recorded from 1834. Roman Catholic is attested from c. 1600, a conciliatory formation from the time of the Spanish Match, replacing
{11:25:54 pm:} <me> Romanist, Romish which by that time had the taint of insult in Protestant England.
{11:25:54 pm:} <me> roman (n.)
{11:25:54 pm:} <me> “a novel,” 1765, from French roman, from Old French romanz (see romance (n.)); roman à clef, novel in which characters represent real persons, literally “novel with a key” (French), first attested in English 1893. And, for those who can’t get enough of it, roman policier “a story of police detection” (1928).”
{11:27:00 pm:} <me> from this i’d conjecture the heretofore “unknown” etymology of Rome is from “*men-“, cognate with “minne-“:
{11:27:11 pm:} <me> rather than presently conjectured:
{11:27:22 pm:} <me> .ety3 Rome
{11:27:25 pm:} <Botnik> “capital of Italy; seat of an ancient republic and empire; city of the Papacy, Old English, from Old French Rome, from Latin Roma, a word of uncertain origin. ‘The original Roma quadrata was the fortified enclosure on the Palatine hill,’ according to Tucker, who finds ‘no probability’ in derivation from *sreu- ‘flow,’ and suggests the name is ‘most probably’ from *urobsma (urbs, robur) and otherwise, ‘but (…)”
{11:27:27 pm:} <Botnik> “less likely’ from *urosma ‘hill’ (compare Sanskrit varsman- ‘height, point,’ Lithuanian viršus ‘upper’).”
{11:27:33 pm:} <Botnik> “Another suggestion [Klein] is that it is from Etruscan (compare Rumon, former name of Tiber River).Common in proverbs, such as Rome was not buylt in one daye (1540s); for when a man doth to Rome come, he must do as there is done (1590s); All roads alike conduct to Rome (1806).”
{11:27:37 pm:} <Botnik> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/Rome
{11:27:39 pm:} <OtherBot> Title: rome | Origin and meaning of the name rome by Online Etymology Dictionary
{11:28:39 pm:} <me> what do you say Herer – how did you like that minnesang? =)
{11:32:33 pm:} <me> ^_♡
{11:33:28 pm:} <me> you too Her ^_♡
{11:37:02 pm:} <Her> huh?
{11:37:05 pm:} <Her> hi me
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{11:44:10 pm:} <me> hi ♡.