I am lakitu, here (Joe (Jerome) Valentyn):

{12:45:07 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> interesting kblom. i know you don’t say such lightly
{12:45:41 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> good morning – & also fattratt, MDeanr`, et al
{12:45:56 pm (CDT):} <MDeanr`> hi lakitu
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{12:46:47 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> how are you Dean?
{12:47:31 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i hope well
{12:48:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> so did you run a practice against COVID, & everything else, all this time?
{12:48:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> if you want to say
{12:50:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> maybe you want to relive that even less
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{12:50:50 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> wb chip.
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{12:51:11 pm (CDT):} <fattratt> hello lakitu
{12:51:18 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> fattrattia
{12:51:30 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> heh heh heh
{12:51:33 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> hope you’re well
{12:51:51 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> saw you linking Wagner, discussing him
{12:51:59 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> also some Reid, & a little Hume
{12:53:29 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> linking or at least discussing
{12:54:32 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> have you ever tried reddit, fattratt? the people’s site?
{12:54:53 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> it’s kind of nice, finally letting myself dig into it more than a little,
{12:54:58 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> last nite.
{12:55:23 pm (CDT):} <fattratt> Is it truly the people’s site?
{12:55:39 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ‘is it *truly*?’ – good question
{12:55:44 pm (CDT):} <fattratt> Not some fiefdom of Zuckerberg or anyone like that?
{12:56:24 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> gal, well. i did look even this up, once
{12:57:14 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i try to make friends before i make enemies… i’ll leave you to your own conclusions, for now
{12:57:27 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> – but i will say there is a lot to like
{12:58:19 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> many alternative big sites are, as you say, owned by Zuckerberg, et al
{12:58:32 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> Instagram, e.g
{12:58:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> buy outs.
{01:00:23 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .wiki fiefdom
{01:00:46 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> 411 ‘smoking in the bathroom.
{01:01:12 pm (CDT):} <`411> “A fief (/fiːf/; Latin: feudum) was the central element of feudalism. It consisted of heritable property or rights granted by an overlord to a vassal who held it in fealty (or ‘in fee’) in return for a form of feudal allegiance and service, usually given by the personal ceremonies of homage and fealty. The fees were often lands or revenue-producing real property held in feudal land tenure: these are typically (…)”
{01:01:17 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fief
{01:03:18 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> what is the winning end game against feudalism? how does it end well?
{01:03:42 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> not say violent revolution, etc
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{01:11:25 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> [13:03:16] <@lakitu> what is the winning end game against feudalism? how does it end well?
{01:11:25 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> [13:03:39] <@lakitu> not say violent revolution, etc
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{01:19:24 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> *money, social status, power.* these huge leitmotivs reoccuring thruout Life.
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{01:21:47 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> part of the philosophy of life, for me – in part
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{01:22:16 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> part of the philosophy of life, for me.
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{01:23:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i distinguish fame from social status, but pair them, in listings.
{01:24:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (& of course infamy is not fame, for me)
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{01:29:12 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety status
{01:29:15 pm (CDT):} <`411> “1670s, ‘height’ of a situation or condition, later ‘legal standing of a person’ (1791), from Latin status ‘condition, position, state, manner, attitude,’ from past participle stem of stare ‘to stand,’ from PIE *ste-tu-, from root *sta- ‘to stand, make or be firm.’ Sense of ‘standing in one’s society or profession’ is from 1820. Status symbol first recorded 1955; status-seeker from 1956. Status-anxiety (…)
{01:29:17 pm (CDT):} <`411> is from 1959.”
{01:29:19 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/status
{01:29:28 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> oo, nice language.
{01:30:05 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> interesting. from 1820, only.
{01:30:23 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> maybe not the firmest rock, to build on.
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{01:31:21 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> 200 years ago is all. we did not have this in society before?
{01:34:00 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> what would we say, rank?
{01:34:17 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> or is that more official, officious – etc?
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{01:34:26 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> formal, at least – ?
{01:34:29 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> hmm
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{01:35:57 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> class?
{01:36:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> or is that a very wide net?
{01:36:15 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ‘there are three social classes’, etc
{01:36:20 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> – ?
{01:36:27 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> class, maybe.
{01:37:22 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> is one more male, the other more for females? by connotation?
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{01:39:35 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> [13:35:55] <@lakitu> class? [13:36:00] <@lakitu> or is that a very wide net? [13:36:13] <@lakitu> ‘there are three social classes’, etc [13:36:18] <@lakitu> – ? [13:36:25] <@lakitu> class, maybe. [13:37:20] <@lakitu> is one more male, the other more for females? by connotation?
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{01:40:14 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety class
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{01:40:39 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety class
{01:42:23 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> status to me connotes this sociological, empirically-verifiable evidence, class is a little more open ended, but it has come to be identified with political economics, namely (here, today,) middle class, upper class, etc
{01:42:51 pm (CDT):} <`411> “c. 1600, ‘group of students,’ in U. S. especially ‘number of pupils in a school or college of the same grade,’ from French classe (14c.), from Latin classis ‘a class, a division; army, fleet,’ especially ‘any one of the six orders into which Servius Tullius divided the Roman people for the purpose of taxation;’ traditionally originally ‘the people of Rome under arms’ (a sense attested in English from (…)
{01:42:57 pm (CDT):} <`411> 1650s), and thus akin to calare ‘to call (to arms),’ from PIE root *kele- (2) ‘to shout.’ In early use in English also in Latin form classis. Meaning ‘an order or rank of persons, a number of persons having certain characteristics in common’ is from 1660s. School and university sense of ‘course, lecture’ (1650s) is from the notion of a form or lecture reserved to scholars who had attained a certain (…)
{01:43:04 pm (CDT):} <`411> “c. 1600, ‘group of students,’ in U. S. especially ‘number of pupils in a school or college of the same grade,’ from French classe (14c.), from Latin classis ‘a class, a division; army, fleet,’ especially ‘any one of the six orders into which Servius Tullius divided the Roman people for the purpose of taxation;’ traditionally originally ‘the people of Rome under arms’ (a sense attested in English from (…)
{01:43:12 pm (CDT):} <`411> level. Natural history sense ‘group of related plants or animals’ is from 1753. Meaning ‘high quality’ is from 1874. Meaning ‘a division of society according to status’ (with upper, lower, etc.) is from 1763. Class-consciousness (1903) is from German Klassenbewusst. The fault, the evil, in a class society is when privilege exists without responsibility and duty. The evil of the classless society is that (…)
{01:43:21 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> repeating.
{01:43:22 pm (CDT):} <`411> 1650s), and thus akin to calare ‘to call (to arms),’ from PIE root *kele- (2) ‘to shout.’ In early use in English also in Latin form classis. Meaning ‘an order or rank of persons, a number of persons having certain characteristics in common’ is from 1660s. School and university sense of ‘course, lecture’ (1650s) is from the notion of a form or lecture reserved to scholars who had attained a certain (…)
{01:43:27 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/class
{01:43:30 pm (CDT):} <`411> level. Natural history sense ‘group of related plants or animals’ is from 1753. Meaning ‘high quality’ is from 1874. Meaning ‘a division of society according to status’ (with upper, lower, etc.) is from 1763. Class-consciousness (1903) is from German Klassenbewusst. The fault, the evil, in a class society is when privilege exists without responsibility and duty. The evil of the classless society is that (…)
{01:43:34 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/class
{01:45:09 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> of course i’m pointing out flaws in using these words this way – re economic ‘classes’ which are popular now to be spoken of.
{01:45:27 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i guess one way of referring to this would be ‘high society’
{01:45:41 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> – as an adjective, ‘high-society’
{01:47:48 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> we seldom distinguish wealth from social status, in our language: ‘upper class’ means rich, & it also means refined, pedigreed
{01:47:53 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> of a high pedigree*
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{01:48:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> the distinction is not made (most often).
{01:50:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> to be rich & ignoble would be some kind of unmentionable embarrassment.
{01:51:07 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> some kind of unmentionability.
{01:51:12 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> or unmentionable.
{01:51:27 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (((some kind of unmentionable.)))
{01:54:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> a dysfunctional black sheep of the family who was an exception, rather than characteristic of upper class families
{01:56:59 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> nobility is another word that occured to me, in this synonym ring. i would then comment that it may be preponderantly masculine, also, or itself, at least in its connotation to me
{01:57:40 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> if we were to include it.
{01:58:19 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> again semi-official, official, etc
{01:58:40 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> in Europe they may have a more sentimental– & unspoken– affinity for ‘nobility’ tho
{01:58:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> they/you
{01:59:43 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> semi-official, official, in one meaning of it
{02:00:09 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> probably the public face of it, tho that doesn’t mean the best & most meaningful sense
{02:00:32 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety nobility
{02:00:41 pm (CDT):} <`411> “mid-14c., nobilite, ‘honor, renown; majesty, grandeur;’ late 14c., ‘quality of being excellent or rare,’ from Old French nobilite ‘high rank; dignity, grace; great deed’ (12c., Modern French nobilité), and directly from Latin nobilitatem (nominative nobilitas) ‘celebrity, fame; high birth; excellence, superiority; the nobles,’ from nobilis ‘well-known, prominent’ (see noble (adj.)). Meaning ‘quality of (…)
{02:00:45 pm (CDT):} <`411> being of noble rank or birth; social or political preeminence, usually accompanied by hereditary privilege’ is attested from late 14c.; sense of ‘the noble class collectively’ is from late 14c. Sense of ‘dignity of mind, elevation of the soul, loftiness of tone’ is from 1590s.”
{02:00:47 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/nobility
{02:03:10 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ‘honor’ is a great association to make here – probably originating in time immemorial
{02:03:41 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> & ‘dignity’ might be the or a raw, arecognized form. {sic} (without reference to recognition).
{02:04:13 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (without reference to recognition.)
{02:05:00 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> you could be poor, cupping for water, but still be within yourself in a way that has very high dignity.
{02:05:41 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> these are their own huge ‘leitmotivs’, in the sense above, thruout history
{02:05:56 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ‘honor’, ‘dignity’– & so on
{02:07:56 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety pedigree
{02:07:59 pm (CDT):} <`411> “early 15c., pedigrue, ‘genealogical table or chart,’ from Anglo-French pe de gru, a variant of Old French pied de gru ‘foot of a crane,’ from Latin pedem accusative of pes ‘foot’ (from PIE root *ped- ‘foot’) + gruem (nominative grus) ‘crane,’ cognate with Greek geranos, Old English cran; see crane (n.)). On old manuscripts, ‘descent’ was indicated by a forked sign resembling the branching lines of a (…)
{02:08:05 pm (CDT):} <`411> genealogical chart; the sign also happened to look like a bird’s footprint. On this theory the form was influenced in Middle English by association with degree. This explanation dates back to Skeat and Sweet in the late 1800s. The word obviously is of French origin, and pied de gru is the only Old French term answering to the earliest English forms, but this sense is not attested in Old French (Modern (…)
{02:08:11 pm (CDT):} <`411> French pédigree is from English). Perhaps it was a fanciful extension developed in Anglo-French. Other explanations are considered untenable. The crane was at the time in question very common in England and France, and it figures in many similes, proverbs, and allusions. The term appears to be extant in the surname Pettigrew, Pettygrew …. [Century Dictionary] Meaning ‘ancestral line’ is mid-15c.; of (…)
{02:08:13 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/pedigree
{02:11:26 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .dictionary pedigree
{02:11:27 pm (CDT):} <`411> § noun: 1. A chart, list, or record of ancestors, to show breeding, especially distinguished breeding. [from 15th c.]; 2. A person’s ancestral history; ancestry, lineage. [from 15th c.]; 3. (uncou.) Good breeding or ancestry. [from 15th c.]; 4. The history or provenance of an idea, custom etc. [from 16th c.]; 5. The (…) — from https://en.wiktionary.org/?title=pedigree
{02:12:16 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> meaning (3).
{02:13:11 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> meaning*/sense.
{02:13:38 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (a couple posts above.)
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{02:15:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety noble
{02:15:07 pm (CDT):} <`411> “c. 1200, ‘illustrious, distinguished, of high rank or birth,’ from Old French noble ‘of noble bearing or birth,’ from Latin nobilis ‘well-known, famous, renowned; excellent, superior, splendid; high-born, of superior birth,’ earlier *gnobilis, literally ‘knowable,’ from gnoscere ‘to come to know,’ from PIE root *gno- ‘to know.’ The prominent Roman families, which were ‘well known,’ provided most of the (…)
{02:15:13 pm (CDT):} <`411> Republic’s public officials. Sense of ‘distinguished by splendor, magnificence, or stateliness’ is from late 13c. Meaning ‘worthy of honor or respect ‘ is from mid-14c. Sense of ‘having lofty character, having high moral qualities’ is from c. 1600. Noble savage is ‘primitive man conceived of as morally superior to civilized man;’ the phrase itself is from Dryden; the idea developed in the 18c. I am as (…)
{02:15:18 pm (CDT):} <`411> free as Nature first made Man,Ere the base Laws of Servitude began,When wild in Woods the noble Savage ran.[Dryden, ‘Conquest of Granada,’ 1672] A noble gas (1902) is so called for its inactivity or inertness; a use of the word that had been applied in Middle English to precious stones, metals, etc., that did not alter or oxidize when exposed to air (late 14c.), with noble in the sense of ‘having (…)
{02:15:20 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/noble
{02:16:24 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> knowable…
{02:16:55 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> wow . . .
{02:17:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu>
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{02:37:39 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> women– being perfect– are so consumed by being high-society – by pedigree (good breeding), having class, true nobility, (social) status, fame.
{02:38:21 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> nobility*, i will say, rather
{02:40:18 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> in Casanova’s Europe, this was in fine form. reading Casanova is featherstuffed with references to high society
{02:41:12 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> – as is Ovid consumed by high society, in his “Loves”, etc. (be sure to read the J. Lewis May translation, I recommend.)
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{03:16:17 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> both nursing the hidden disfigurement simply of being men, haha, in this. being one of women’s realms as it is.
{03:23:00 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> high society. class. dignity. grace. graciousness. pedigree, good breeding. rank, status. fame. elegance.
{03:25:08 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> …Ovid was an “elegist”,
{03:25:27 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> one of his only memorable descriptions of himself, for me
{03:25:52 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> if you asked ‘what he was’, that: an elegist.
{03:27:23 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (* one of his only memorable descriptions of himself, for me.)
{03:30:28 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety elegance
{03:30:36 pm (CDT):} <`411> “c. 1500, ‘tastefulness, correctness, harmoniousness, refinement,’ of speech or prose, from Middle French élégance, from Latin elegantia ‘taste, propriety, refinement,’ from elegantem (see elegant). Earlier form was elegancy (early 15c.). Meaning ‘refined luxury’ is from 1797. Via French come German Eleganz, Swedish elegans, etc.”
{03:30:38 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/elegance
{03:32:05 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> taste.
{03:33:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> taste… – & let’s see: elegant:
{03:33:35 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .ety elegant
{03:33:39 pm (CDT):} <`411> “late 15c., ‘tastefully ornate,’ from Middle French élégant (15c.), from Latin elegantem (nominative elegans) ‘choice, fine, tasteful,’ collateral form of present participle of eligere ‘select with care, choose’ (see election). Meaning ‘characterized by refined grace’ is from 1520s. Latin elegans originally was a term of reproach, ‘dainty, fastidious;’ the notion of ‘tastefully refined’ emerged in (…)
{03:33:44 pm (CDT):} <`411> classical Latin. Related: Elegantly. Elegant implies that anything of an artificial character to which it is applied is the result of training and cultivation through the study of models or ideals of grace; graceful implies less of consciousness, and suggests often a natural gift. A rustic, uneducated girl may be naturally graceful, but not elegant. [Century Dictionary]”
{03:33:46 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://www.etymonline.com/word/elegant
{03:36:28 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .wiki Century Dictionary
{03:36:35 pm (CDT):} <`411> “The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia is one of the largest encyclopedic dictionaries of the English language. In its day it was compared favorably with the Oxford English Dictionary and frequently consulted for more factual information than would normally be the case for a dictionary. The Century Dictionary is based on The Imperial Dictionary of the English Language, edited by Rev. John Ogilvie (1797–1867) and (…)”
{03:36:37 pm (CDT):} <`411> — from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Dictionary
{03:36:41 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> just checking the years
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{03:37:08 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ah – well around 100 years old or more, I would say.
{03:37:09 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> Hi Kids!
{03:37:30 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> but yes: elegant’s etymology.
{03:37:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (“elegant”‘s.)
{03:37:59 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> – hi Thom.
{03:38:09 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> Tommy
{03:38:13 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> Thomas.
{03:38:15 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> Hello lakitu
{03:38:17 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> *smiles*
{03:38:17 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> Tommy
{03:38:18 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> haha
{03:38:28 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> hi *Tommy* ^_xX
{03:40:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ‘el-‘ – ‘sel-‘…
{03:40:14 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> . . . *
{03:41:07 pm (CDT):} <kblom> I’d guess ex+legere
{03:41:31 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> “i select the best” was one definition of root word of eclecticism, which I used to practice, & also preach.
{03:41:42 pm (CDT):} <kblom> maybe ex+ligare
{03:43:28 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> If something is implicit when I imply, is it explicit when I exply?
{03:44:43 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ‘tastefully ornate’ (*gathering from that etymology again.)
{03:46:33 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> * (*gathering from that etymology again.*)
{03:46:39 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ahem
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{03:51:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> looking back in this client, i can see crucial posts of mine were being mysteriously blocked from #philosophical again: {01:11:25 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> [13:03:16] <@lakitu> what is the winning end game against feudalism? how does it end well?
{03:51:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> {01:11:25 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> [13:03:39] <@lakitu> not say violent revolution, etc
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{03:51:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> {01:19:24 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> *money, social status, power.* these huge leitmotivs reoccuring thruout Life.
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{03:51:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> {01:21:47 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> part of the philosophy of life, for me – in part
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{03:52:42 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> wow, changes the whole conversation
{03:52:50 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> the whole discussion
{03:53:28 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> John was here recently, I wonder if he knows. I think he’s an Undernet SOP or similar.
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{03:56:02 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i was saying *money, (“)social status(“), power* were leitmotivs reoccurring thruout life, & *****that***** is what was part of the philosophy of life, *****to begin this oration*****
{03:56:57 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> not ‘the questions of “violent revolution”‘ as you were misled to believe
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{03:58:28 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> The problem with a feudal system is the same as every other social structure on the planet (not restricted to humans.)
{03:59:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i just happened to extra-investigate this =(
{03:59:54 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> The problem with societies on earth is the method of succession of leadership.
{04:01:34 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i noticed that i tried to tell artalien in the first Winter of 2018 that I had read a 650-page book on applied philosophy over the last month & half or so, then. it was never sent or recorded… i looked diligently thru my logs, even finding the actual conversation itself.
{04:02:18 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i think i have graduated beyond IRC, all told.
{04:02:19 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> Applied philosophy? To what except itself can philosophy be applied?
{04:04:58 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> I*.
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{04:09:35 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> what a grave, grievous disappointing thing.
{04:09:43 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> * what a grave, grievous, disappointing thing.
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{04:10:55 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> There’s more of gravy than of grave to you!
{04:15:53 pm (CDT):} <ControlFreq> brb
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{04:50:18 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> what a… oh it doesn’t even matter that I think of the word anymore. beyond what it is, maybe it is also a liberation

(…)

{06:23:58 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> continued: stateliness of course being king of those– perhaps being regal being queen: being high-society. having class; dignity; grace; graciousness; pedigree, good breeding; status, rank; fame; elegance… & then again maybe there is no finish to whom is queen of those.
{06:28:24 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> & very likely, i know nothing about nothing about that – the queen elegance.
{06:34:03 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> the queen, finest-material elegance of them all.
{06:36:45 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> likely.
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{06:45:53 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> then again i had the luckiestness to get to know gmolly, real name Martha from Tucson.
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{06:47:43 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> little aristobrat. {sic}
{06:47:57 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> heh . . .
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{06:51:40 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> truly regal…
{06:51:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> …& stately.
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{06:53:56 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> something like Divinity to know . . . =D
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This concludes our own elegism dialogue.

Dedicated to women, who are perfect; & whose only sulksome illusion they are not is inflicted by the tentative blemishes adorned upon thyselves by enemies of women’s inner & outer Beauty: the envious, the jealous, the wrongfully lusting, the drunken . . . . .

& In reminding you that some of us Scandinavians say that the gods rule men;

but the Norns, who are female, rule the gods & men.

– Valentyn

(A disruption’s missing piece recouped as an addendum:)

{10:26:36 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> well i have a dialogue– those nasty, non-philosophy, audience transgressing ones of mine as John labeled them– from yesterday, the Elegy dialogue I ( http://joevalentyn.org/press/2020/08/24/elegism-dialogue-i-being-high-society-having-class-dignity-grace-graciousness-pedigree-status-elegance-the-regal-stateliness-also-with-an-attempt-at-the-queen-king-elegances-whispering/ ) from yesterday, but at 17 chatters, we do not quite have a
{10:26:36 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> quorum
{10:26:40 pm (CDT):} <JohnStar> Title: Elegism dialogue I: Being high-society. Having class; dignity; grace; graciousness; pedigree; status; elegance; the regal; & stateliness. Also with an attempt at the queen & king elegances, whispering aloud that there may be no finish to the double spiral staircase upwards to the final queen elegance. Amen. ⸻ ♡, Joe Valentyn
{10:26:45 pm (CDT):} <`411> — “Elegism dialogue I: Being high-society. Having class; dignity; grace; graciousness; pedigree; status; elegance; the regal; & stateliness. Also with an attempt at the queen & king elegances, whispering aloud that there may be no finish to the double spiral staircase upwards to the final queen elegance. Amen. ⸻ ♡, Joe Valentyn”
{10:27:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> from yesterday, to continue, i was trying to say
{10:27:19 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> only as important as those words listed there…
{10:27:52 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> as important as you find those words there…
{10:29:57 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> –now my computer is freezing up–
{10:30:12 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> that the channel is out of order, means i will have to carry on without, then
{10:31:21 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> that the channel is out of order, means i will have to carry on without, i was trying to say
{10:32:17 pm (CDT):} <Mariu> Springfield
{10:33:28 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> but i will try anyway:
{10:33:56 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> gratitude, is a pantheon member, of those, too.
{10:34:24 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> re “Being high-society. Having class; dignity; grace; graciousness; pedigree; status; elegance; the regal; & stateliness”)
{10:34:59 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> err being regal; being stately*
{10:35:55 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> so: *re Being high-society. Having class; dignity; grace; graciousness; pedigree; status; elegance; being regal; being stately
{10:36:09 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ((being regal; stately)
{10:42:47 pm (CDT):} <Mariu> these things will not help science by much and nor they will be preventing certain situations where one person ends up having no class. It will also not help you live longer either
{10:44:11 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> gratitude is that expression of the unsaid– otherwise– gratefulness between us in caring acts & expressions, kind gestures, that warmth we thrive on, or die from: without.
{10:45:49 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> like Sunshine, the enjoyful appearing attractively tanned, over their whole self.
{10:46:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (those enjoying it fully enough)
{10:46:12 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> attractively tan*
{10:46:20 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> i was meaning to say.
{10:47:19 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> * like Sunshine, those enjoying it fully enough appearing attractively tan, all over themselves.
{10:48:20 pm (CDT):} <Mariu> coding in an elegant manner, now that is art
{10:48:32 pm (CDT):} Mariu!*@* added to ignore list.
{10:48:35 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> {10:48:32 pm (CDT):} Mariu!*@* added to ignore list.
{10:48:41 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> citing the plague dialogue v
{10:49:51 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> he’s from the Orient or something. by his own mentions
{10:50:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> anyway, continuing:
{10:50:19 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> ((…trying…))
{10:50:51 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> well i’ll conclude this addendum here
{10:51:02 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> .
{10:51:05 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> (thank you!)
{10:51:13 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> thank you, heh heh.
{10:51:37 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> oh–
{10:51:44 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> hmm
{10:52:01 pm (CDT):} * lakitu remembering something from someone absent
{10:52:07 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> err–
{10:52:35 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> well yes, there is Love & thanks, in a way. good to learn both of those.
{10:52:37 pm (CDT):} <Socrates> Sorry, no matches for chanserv changes topic to: ??:*: the alderaan mining corporation :*: – no public sales – r.i.p. chris “stajda” stajda – we wish you had seen another way in the definition database. (0.028s)
{10:53:01 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> there is Love, & it is different from thanks but thanks is no big baddie
{10:53:09 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> , itself.
{10:53:31 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> * there is Love, & it is different from thanks, but thanks is no big baddie, itself.
{10:53:42 pm (CDT):} <lakitu> * (there is Love, & it is different from thanks, but thanks is no big baddie, itself.)
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Topic: (LionClan) Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. George Santayana, founder of the Harvard Philosophical Club
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<lakitutoo> ah, my computer froze up fully
<lakitutoo> my computer froze up beyond any kind of use at all
<lakitutoo> so i am back on this 2nd computer.
<lakitutoo> i was saying, & so it is well to practice gratitude in both romance & diplomacy.
<lakitutoo> i*
<lakitutoo> I*
<lakitutoo> *
<lakitutoo> not sure where that word came from: romance & Life.
<lakitutoo> romance & life.*
<lakitutoo> & which goes hand in hand with care & kindness.
<+Mariu> ignoring is not caring
<lakitutoo> ah there you are again: have to /ignore you again
<lakitutoo> plague v dialogue man
<lakitutoo> & i was just before he said that starting to type, a little disruption here, fighting thru it
<lakitutoo> or trying
<lakitutoo> I*
<lakitutoo> largely I came to say,
<lakitutoo> gratitude had been, as just mentioned, something that was bemeaning to say, but did not get said untl now
<lakitutoo> , until now.*
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<lakitutoo> what we can understand as a delay on the assembly line
<lakitutoo> what we can understand as a delay on the assembly line,* something like that.
<lakitutoo> * – something like that.
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<lakitutoo> & so the the Elegism dialogue I, the present addendum, is truly concluded, then.

(For the record: one case of bitrot or similar of two letters becoming dysphoniously switched was corrected by the switching back of those two letters, in the above addendum..)

Update 2024_January3rd : Chat scrolls that were lost by destroyed hard drive were provided by `inhahe` (Richard Nichols III) that I went thru & found the dialogue that came earlier on the (Nicolaus-and-Daniel-)Bernoullli–Kelly maximum (abstract) growth investment strategy; they are included here.

Update 2023_December10th : Added missing Bernoulli, Daniel Bernoulli, to the spread title & slightly altered the first sentence’s grammar:

I got this idea plural years ago, & tonight committed to teaching this very lucrative investment strategy:

From me (Joe Jerome Valentyn – nicknamed “lakitu“) in the forum, century twenty-one year twenty-three November eighteenth:

{central U.S. time CST am 01:00’18”} <ratbeing_> Still almost an hour until it gets light.
{central U.S. time CST am 01:00’38”} <lakitu> wow
{central U.S. time CST am 01:00’54”} <lakitu> you’re not to be chastised for sloth this am
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{central U.S. time CST am 01:08’25”} <lakitu> (((* you’re not to be chastized for sloth this am)))
{central U.S. time CST am 01:22’47”} <ratbeing_> Well, a Benthamite solution to trolley problems would involve counting the bodies.
{central U.S. time CST am 01:37’43”} <ratbeing_> wlak
{central U.S. time CST am 01:38’07”} <lakitu> was going to say something –
{central U.S. time CST am 01:41’13”} <lakitu> from my earlier years – in part meaning in #forum – I here forward will teach to study Kelly strategy ratio investment amounts to recognize how much to invest in each investment – in the abstract meaning for investment I describe – scenario . . .
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{central U.S. time CST am 01:43’49”} <lakitu> for a investment scenario where the risk is 75% chance to win 2.3X gain, the Kelly investment ratio is 55% from your total wealth – this is the mathematically sound amount to investment your money, per the Kelly investment strategy.
{central U.S. time CST am 01:47’40”} <lakitu> (* for a investment scenario where the risk is 75% chance to win 2.3X gain, the Kelly investment ratio is 55% from your investable amount – this is the mathematically sound amount to invest from your investable amount, per the Kelly investment strategy.)
{central U.S. time CST am 01:54’15”} <lakitu> you calculate that using the Kelly investment equation: f*= (bp-q) / b {dash}
{central U.S. time CST am 01:54’43”} <lakitu> this is *ABSTRACT* investment.
{central U.S. time CST am 01:55’22”} <lakitu> that has and is not limited to money: time for example is another quantity we have, spend, invest, waste, & the like
{central U.S. time CST am 01:58’15”} <lakitu> {dash} (continuing:) where b is payoff ratio, p is chance (at winning), & q is (risk at losing)
{central U.S. time CST am 02:00’34”} <lakitu> (* {dash} (continuing:) where b is payoff ratio, p is chance (at winning), & q is risk (losing))
{central U.S. time CST am 02:01’00”} <lakitu> in our example, the payoff ratio was 2.3, the chance at winning was 75%, & the risk was 25%.
{central U.S. time CST am 02:06’37”} <lakitu> when you look at this, you find chance at winning is the subtractive inverse (meaning one quantity is x, the other quantity is 1-x) of losing (if you have a 75% chance to win, you have 25% chance to lose) – & thus since you can figure risk to lose from chance to win, you only need chance to win – & thus you students who will follow this will study the two quantities: payoff ratio (2.3(X) for example), & chance to win (75% chance to win
{central U.S. time CST am 02:06’37”} <lakitu> for example) – when you take those two quantities & figure them in the Kellly investment strategy equation: f* = (bp-q) / b, you get **how much from your investable amount to invest**: **55%** for example… the key to kelly battling back contra losses is it invests **a proportion**;
{central U.S. time CST am 02:06’55”} <lakitu> you will each time have more to invest – at the calculated ratio – to battle back with
{central U.S. time CST am 02:08’11”} <lakitu> this – the kelly investment strategy – is ****the mathematically proven soundest investment strategy for maximal growth payoff/chance investment scenarios.****
{central U.S. time CST am 02:13’23”} <lakitu> thus – you will make tables – likely via a computer program as I have done – for f* when b (payoff) = 1, 1.25, 1.33… & their combinations with p (chance to win) = 50%, 55%, 60%… where you and/or the computer program solves for f* (the ratio of your investable currency (money for example) to invest) = bp-q / b ****& you commit these kelly investment ratios to rote memory to use at your discretion in Life****
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{central U.S. time CST am 02:17’16”} <lakitu> remember: the kelly investment strategy ****mathematically proves the soundest amount to invest for *maximal growth** in payoff ratio, chance to win (& risk (percent) to lose) investment scenarios
{central U.S. time CST am 02:21’51”} <lakitu> if you have a chance to win, & a payoff amount (3.0X for example) then you can compute the mathematically soundest maximal growth investment amount (“f*”; 55% for example) for each & every case – & deciding for example how much time to invest is a very common thing in our life – now you can get it down to mathematically valid scientifically sound calculated amounts for maximal growth investments

Update: new work might be coming soon . . .

* * * * *

2023 December 1st chances-by-earning-ratios & earning-ratios-by-chances orders both listed in this post & in the standalone copy: Work is in: 2023’s November 23rd around 4:18 pm central U.S. time:

Use this information to memorize maximal growth investment ratios you should use given the chance to win & earnings ratio you can get by winning in your life: read it here or download a copy:

⸻ Joe Valentyn
b. Faribault,
Minnesota,
the United States
(United States’) 2023 Thanksgiving Day

Here is something I’ve used to participate in politics better, with a tensor/matrix for Political Theory – my political theory I’ve collected – * (times) Current Events (a former current events list I kept):

Political Theory * Current Events.

Update: Typesetting fixed. (Zoom in if you want, the typesetting is in between plateaus.)

The political theory & current events were gathered by hand, & I made the program that makes the tensor/matrix.

Each item – up to what you can stomach – should be dealt with by hand, to keep the human touch with political causes in a more systematic, ‘agrarian’ political practice.

⸻ Joe Valentyn

Today (this diurne (24 hours)) is a big day for me: I released four select music theory moduluses: each never repeats, is the same forwards & back, & seamlessly loops.

Further, this music is tuned to 7.83 hertz – the fundamental resonant frequency for the Earth (see here).

You can access them here:

https://www.girlsaskguys.com/qt/entertainment-arts/q5169537-how-does-my-music-theory-creation-sound-do-you-like-this-never

Or if that site disappears, here:

https://joevalentyn.org/’s-files-for-2/GirlsAskGuys.com/

Update century twenty-one year twenty-four January Thirteenth central U.S. time pm( sic) 12:37′: added “Further, this music is tuned to 7.83 hertz – the dominant resonant frequency for the Earth (see here).“

Originally written & then banned from my OK Cupid profile in Spring/Summer 2017, titanically extended Midsummer 2019:

****HOW.****

Do you have some fresh new pinkcliterature you want red? Do you think that you can work your beautiful body of Art in tantalizing ways, & want to have for yourself my dreamy, beautiful, & divine Lovestory coupled with your most-dreamy, most-beautiful, & most-divine Lovestory? Together at last? For the first time & for the ever time?

Then Let’s enjoy ourselves in the best of ways & pop the cork; ‘to much Romance.’

Hold on, tho, I’m not done: Do you have some much-loved ‘lip — ‘lit — (typo – where’s the backspace key????) — do you have some much-loved ‘lit that is herself already sopping wet with Romance, but you still want this hot clit rit — dyslexia, maybe there — ‘lit crit? Clit rit?

— Are you a ‘lit critter?

— You, the masterpiece, will be appraised thru the roof, because I am a Lover of Loves, & I will treat High Art as High Art . . . & inlay such royal material with the diamonds we want for such stately beauty.

Maybe you have undiscovered Art; many greats began having people throw their own cherrytomatoes at whot, in the end, was Loved most.

I am worldwise & learned enough to recognize that 2, even 3 rotten eggs do not the dozen spoil. It’s just bad luck, or whatever it is. So even if it has rained on your parade, I still know that that runny mascara — under those big fat coke-bottles — themselves under some rushed, rushed, rushed ponytail ****can be of the most-beautiful, earnestly lovable, maybe-even-better Lovestory artist of all****. You are not out of the race, you are not out of the winners’ circle. Dry those drops, dear. Dry those drops.

This is whre I cum in.

For all four Lovestory riderses, I am chock full of pluck & chipper. Remember Fabio on those Romance fiction covers? Everything you want? That’s whot you DESERVE AND REQUIRE for your next Lovestory. Ovid, Casanova, I red them all. I Love Love.

Maybe in your lovestories, chipper hard Sex prevails. Sensuousness. Drive. Emotion. Desire. In scientific terms, I have four testicles’ worth of testes. My penis is infinite.

& Beautiful too.

Swear to Women (Women!) that I am getting some computer glitches while working on this pic – I’ll tell you about my up loads another time – for now let’s focus on the fact that I cnt ride too hot, butt i love to ride: {link to pen pic}

(I aver with all my credibility that that is an un-doctored picture & one I didn’t set up. No picture editing; just whole-picture black-&-whited & then whole-picture hued. My middle-finger to my ring-finger lengths are also large & in charge.)

This & a condition I was medically diagnosed with: “satyromania”… the male version of being a nymphomaniac –
this condition is caused by Women, & cured by Women – in a vixen circle. Means big trouble in bigc’literature ridings we can do everywhere & everywhichway & everyt———-

Allow me to cup my hands & whisper an i-d-ya in your most-sensitivst of ears:

I am a rider. I cnt ride too hot. Butt I Love to ride. I feel this makes me a great American rider. ^_XX.

So, this is for all those Love riders out there: A’one’two’three’faWR!:

I have good jeans. The jeans get into the ink. {sic}

The ink flows nicely from the pen, & the pen is nice & long & well-built, it feels good to ride with, in your hands, & whotnot. Very, very, very safe to chew on the cap. It fits in your pocket(s). You can ride with it most anywhere =D…

With my jeans-ink, ink-pen, & again, just a huge & magnificent pen, we can mouth, orate, ride, or even just run our fingers along your beautiful, incredibly seductive body of Art. In terms of our riding, we will make Love.

A Beauty such as Women possess requires a lot of work – **this I know** – & I have all the dedication I need.

I would love for you to mouth, orate, handle, ride, just **breathe in my ear** **my own** body of work.

‘Butt don’t quit’, tho, as they say in lovespeech… because we can perform ‘double-penning’ on your body of Art — some call it ‘double entendre’. Sementicly, this means *penning you innuendo n your ‘lit.* That’s ‘lit’rally what double-penning iss; ‘lit’rally. Think “double-penning.” This is all part of being a punning linguist, puusi lingering —

— (@#$(@#$@#! I tried to make a joke — I cnt.

Upward & onward.

There’s also a fun much-loved number we can do called 69. 69 in terms of rhythmitic is both orally — in unison — or perhaps to the knowing – I could shock you, by my being upsidedown — while you made “oral history” with me in this beauitful mathematics; because of the “upsidedown” part of the orations, this unison oration is known in my mathematical rhythmitic as the number 69. This beauitful number we perform… is a delight of delights – quite the delight for both man & woman. It is one of my personal flavorites to enjoy. *Goes looking thru his library.*

Whairsabouts where we? Aw: yes: *What *ABOUT* oral skills?* Much ido is made of a person’s ability to perform orally. Men are not as gooed at performing orally, but certainly it is an out-of-body experience, so to speak, to get the luckiest of luckies, a women’s beautiful performance.

Let’s take another look at me again:

& My pen – so big it’s a funnie: but it rides & can take dictation, too:

Remember my pen is safe to chew on. It’s a Dic (missspelling?? I cnt spell. Granted there was a “cnt-spelling bee”: I wood wims ‘its.), & it has my jeans in it, (the jeans get in the ink). Feels good to hol’ on to, tooo… {link to pen pic}

So loosen up your belt & get comfortable; I want you to really get into it, now:

My looks & oral skills make performing orally for you fun.

Get in touch. Sleep on this. Get in touch. Doesn’t this all just say *BEGGING FOR IT*? you know what that means — GET IN TOUCH &– WELL, GET IN-TOUCH.

Alik I say: I have acquired the taste for the ****catient**** work of a punning linguist, & my performing oral has me insatiably **lingering** well over your ‘lit’s content… If you’re not familiar with the ‘lingering’ method, look it up; it’s on Unban Dicktionary. I am a ‘dicter’, to make a metaphor, of the lingering method who is a dedicated reeder of your ‘lit – again – orating in a very **in-touch** way – until your ‘lit’s amazing climax. My jaw is no stranger to oration – a bony stubbly thing; & maybe what’s more – I suck hard when I perform oral for you – mixing up the again-look-it-up lingering oratory, with my stubbley/bony jaw, & again, because i just suck & suck & suck — dedicatedly on your ‘lit tho, for minutes then tens of minutes, maybe an hour, maybe longer, until that Niagra Falls Dam of suspense BLOWS free, into our work’s climax, flowing thru my mouth, me taking it in like a insatiable whore. Maybe you could have two climaxes – why not three? When my lips go numb I can just run my fingers thru your ‘lit until I’m ready to reed again. Left hand’s fingers, right hand’s, perhaps the middle. I have the dedication, the Love, & the DESIRE!!! for orally performing even the most suspenseful cliterature floodbreakingly & sonorously.

Get in touch, &– get in touch. Sometimes when an idya just screams *PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE* – I get in touch with that person to work our idya together. Naps — “nap attack!!” — often do me good, when all else fails.

So alright, cntinuing.

I would love to ride you doubly, innuendo, backwards in a mirror.

A ‘nother personal favorite way to ride: orally titillating you while dedicatedly working your ‘lit with my huge, hairy hand to its fullest, most-tremelous flow[1-1], & truly amazing climax.

Your pure excitement flowing, running your legs in the afterglow of this latest ‘lit sensation, & happily I imbibe, in turn all your masterpiece offers, till the last drop of milfulous goodness.

The End.

Err wait now, wear were we?

Oh yes. What about riding bare tit-illation, you say, AND in your ‘lit?

(Oo I made a word joke!

****Titters.****)

No problem – I can pen both of these – My Beauties – & reacharound & fingerpaint you a blossoming pink flower at the same time. The Beauties are Beautiful, in my imagination right now. Precious.

I would Love, I would Love, I would Love.

I want to Love’ with you — Lovestory in full — let me tell you, beautiful female Lovestory & Romance & Sex riders of this world!!!! I want to Love’!!!! I feel like I am on ovocaine from thinking about this!!!!

“Joe,” you ask, “How can we work together on this epic Lovestory which is always (right?) in Spring?”

Where there’s a will there’s a way.

Where there’s a will there’s a way.

Start here: Do you Love People? Are you a social butterfly? Well-mannered? Are you high-society? Are you Loving & caring & kind? *WHO* are you favorite people? Do you have any passions? What do you like to talk about? Have you ever been part of the making of a good Lovestory? What do you do instead…?

Share with me, some, who you think about & what you think about. Who are your favorite people – what is your favorite stuff – which are your favorite things? =D Who do you love musically? How about in movies? Read books? Like websites? Talk about things? Do you love / excel in anything?

I love all kinds of people & tons of stuff & lots of things.

Try me.

How about how good-looking your body of Art is. Does your masterful Artwork have a beautiful face, & do you have a little space for penning myself in? Maybe your body of masterful Artwork has wonderful bouncy titillation? Does it have a full, delightful Beauty on the back 9? Do you have good style?

I am entranced by such beauty. (See my poem here, from Summer of last year.)

One desirable trait is this favorite: your being very Sexual, for riding Romance/Lovestory. Are you a ‘nymphomaniac’? At least Sexually charged? Have that sexual drive? Enjoy sex & sexuality? Do you make the most divine sounds when you’re having Sex? Do you Sexualize everyday conversation? Re: This: can you orally perform well, as well as when riding / being rode? Do you care for scents & lingerie? Do you have any hawt pictures/videos/records of yourself? Have any favorites saved of your desirable hot guys? Do you ********WANNA********?

How fun are you? Joke? Play? Stay loose? Like guys & Sex & music & fun?

Are you charming? Have a ‘Princess’ Charming air to you? Are you high-society? Regal? Cultured? Again: a social butterfly? A flirt? ^_xX

A nymphomaniac?!

^_xXXX

Let’s dream up something new – just us two. Let’s co-author a wonderful Lovestory! “I don’t care how you get to me, just get to me…”

If the apresented sounds good – get in touch!!!

Happy Hearts & Happy trails My Loves! “We do!”

·Joe·’====D’·V·[1]

[1]: 6-t-9 eyes are better than 2 – all these glasses are why I ride so truly gooed. Cum ride together with me. Let us ride to our hearts’ content. “Honey, cum to Florida.” Florida is a peninsula & *I know* the cunt of the cunt of America – but not yet the cunt of the cunt of the cunt of America – but I will! *Slams buzzer.* I will!

The End… Of The Beginning…

‘V for me!’

=D See you around!! =D

Perhaps “missuse of the foot'” here; if you like a nice foot’, possibly missused:
[1-1]: This reference beforehand was in terms of the ‘origin’ — the ‘raising of the curtains’ on — Ancient Gk. *rheo- — *rheo- meaning “flow” — for my rhetoric “rhetoric”.

Pss. If you’d like carrotjuice for your coney, just ding the bell. How’d that new Wal-mart commercial go, “You can ring my bell…
{insert potential-infinity infinite unicode space character computer generator} Ring my bell.

BD

Her’s picks. Take it in!

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Her’s me:

Here’s my original OKCupid profile, which as I said was banned around July 23rd or 24th of 2019: Happened to save the text just before it got banned:

? joe ?
About Me
My self-summary

Hi=D.

I am Joe.=D

‘Let’s Play Together.’ *Doll motions . . . *

^_^

Main site: www.joevalentyn.org

GirlsAskGuys.com: https://www.girlsaskguys.com/user/joevalentine & https://www.girlsaskguys.com/user/joevalentyn

The Twitters: http://twitter.com/joevalentyn

( Recent Tweet:

My new political position:

I will fight, barefist, abusers of Women & Children in a boxing ring, until I can’t anymore. This will be effective immediately.

ChildAbusePrevention #DomesticViolence #IBelieveHer

( https://twitter.com/joevalentyn/status/983901093498322944?s=19 ) )

First things first: Cats love me. ?

OK =D :

I’m about Love, Dating & Relationships, You?, Conversation, Love, People, Poetry, Love, Politics, Love, Love, Love, Literature, Life, Love; & Maybe You A Lot.

Free love, sex positivity, hugs not drugs, natural living . . .

About me:

I am a tenacious, powerful & alive 34-year-old male.

I am a German-Dutch-Bohemian-Swedish-Irish American. A mutt.

*Women are my #1 desire.*

I am about romance in a serious way: On the dating-&-relationship site GirlsAskGuys.com, I rank in the top 10 internationally on their main measure (MHO %), but not officially because I answered only 50 questions & they evidently require more to be officially ranked. (My MHO %: 43%: https://www.girlsaskguys.com/user/joevalentine – Top MHO % of users worldwide: https://www.girlsaskguys.com/xper )

• I think pink.

I am sensitive & loving & caring & kind; I think even nice.

I am also affectionate.

I love people & have spent hours a day hanging out & chatting with people; I know you, as a person, & knock down the door trying to make it good for you. I am communicative.

I do love taps when I talk.

I am also appreciative.

I am positive & responsible.

I am playful & fun, almost to a fault.

Hugs not drugs, Women are my drugs & my medicine.

Mature; I have been well-trained & well-nurtured by Women in my life.

I want YOU – not just sex..

I sort of eat, sleep, & breathe woman.

I love Females.

I would actively provide self-defense, safety, security & justice etc, to you, & have for girls I have not yet dated just recently.

Do not underestimate that which I have, I would say to offenders against you or me.

I like going for a romantic getaway or letting you have me-time.

I have 10 lucrative business ideas, should we choose that walk of Life.

(About the Hugs not drugs: I came up with ‘being heart-edge:’ If you wanna do ‘something’ together, I will maybe-maybe say Yes. I probably will say yes to using a natural stimulant if you asked me to, or the like. If you wanted us to use some drank, I would (if we can arrange a sober / not too drunk ride.)

We can also go to a river & have a picnic, go out to eat, go to a concert, go to a movie, or stay in & watch Netflix & chill. We can do it all.

One-time rated 9.4 on Hot-or-Not with a weak picture my good friend put on.

I shave & trim myself daily; I exercise 3 times a week; & I enjoy healthy, tasty food.

I wear vetiver.

When I was 10 or 11 my comprehension tested about 3rd year college(15th grade). When I was 25 I was made head of the largest & best live philosophy discussion-room in the world.

Random favorite words currently: play, magnanimity, mystique, bunnyflippin’, coney.

Slightly fatt, ‘poochie’ cheeks (on your face) are almost better than muff or your bazingas, I believe.

I love you as a person, even if we’re not the ones for each other.

I think the purpose of Life is to Love, & a couple other things.

“Life is a feast full of starving fools. Dig in.”

Lastly, why do I have all this information? Because I am a student of Love & Life, in that order, & Love is basically the most crucial thing to me.

Joe.

‘Not a bot!!!!

Old OK Cupid username (before they changed everybody to using their first names): xoxDonkeyHickxox.

Random recent things:

@@ The girls on here are so pretty; you all could get awards from me of some kind or another, too. @@!

^_^! Way happy about this.

2nd recent tweet:

Hey #Russia – Take a look at this : how about we make love, not war – literally?

http://joevalentyn.org/press/2018/10/22/the-new-american-dreamers/

POETRY SECTION:

New Poem {:Summer 2018}

A new ‘prose poem:’

“Tactility**”

It comes to me like beautiful ♫usic – Erato

To be /in touch with/ Beauty, Love, The Erotic, The Feminine: /The Aesthetic/, wherever it reposes… beating heart…

To believe in, in the hinterland, the Holiness of snow white; to savor tranquility, & gentleness… in a soft evening’s snowfall; & to behold the soft tufts of cuteness and fun from bunnies kicking up puffs of fluffy snow, chasing tail in couples together…

& To grip with thine soul the flesh of thighs… to feast upon the cleavageous bearing of breasts… to devour carnivorously the other parts… & to gorge & gorge wholly upon the living breathing Gorgeos erotick lustee…

To know this Beauty: to feel these Truths: to rub with thine whole body us: forms of Goodness, “tactilly…

That is to conjoin with the Earthly Love, and Beauty – The Erotick & The otherworldly Feminine –

The witch’s coventry found practicing these tactile arts. The rivers found running the otherworldliness of her face – the union of –

The bunny.

The prophetess of Love…

The savior of your Earthenly Love.

The wishful, longful secret-tears diary of a teenager of 16…

A nupital innocence of a curly hair latching on her safety belt trustingly for a drive…

To eat the ambrosia of the pure poetry of the head-over-heels language of Lovers…

… The ambrosia of the pure poetry of the head-over-heels language of Lovers…

To touch the texture of empathy engendered by the best expressions of your soul for the goddess of your engagement…

To warmly nudge the swing ‘neath the branch, under the canopy of stars on a picnicked beach – ‘Kiss me now… kiss me forever… Amen.’

Amen.

New Song {:April 5th, 2018}

A new song against human trafficking:

(This song is about FBI / Interpol raids of female abduction victims – just fair warning… might get pretty aggressive):

Song: Chattel

CHATTEL!!

CHATTEL!!

Shoot
to k***

Take
no prisoners

because CHATTEL!!

CHATTEL!!

SO WE MUST SECURE
SECURE
her.

=D!!

Songpoem: you can be my pet bunny (((free love)))

February 23rd, 2015

here’s a song i’ve had as a draft on my computer for a couple weeks:

posting cutie pictures

up on the social meed’ . . .

tell me bunny, is that ineffable allure,

actually fishing for a captain like me?

i stop & ask myself,

did that sign say heaven’s now hirin’?

tell the suavest & the handsomer,

please apply within . . . . . .

{facebook pop}

howdy there bunniest,

would you care to grab coffee, this week’nd?

{facebook pop} ha, maybe, maybe not, loverboy

who is askin’ =)

{facebook pop}

you got me: i’m a lover not a fighter,

& i believe this world was built for two . . .

i also so happen to believe,

that i might like you . . .

& so if my company happened to be,

a mutual desire . . .

all i can say is my love is free,

& this gun is for hire . . .

{facebook pop}

ok, fine.

meet me at the coffeehouse,

up on North & Vine

i’ll bring my girlfriend with me,

i’m guessing you shouldn’t mind.

{facebook pop}

There is a God — great,

then it’s a date —

how about 7’o’clock,

on Friday?

{facebook pop}

sure. {facebook pop} k bye

{(pause?) then revelrous happy harmonica solo}

{ ” }

{ ” }

looking for the girl in the photograph

i hike up my boxers of silk,

from somewhere there’s intoxicating vanilla fragrant, &

she arrives all dressed to kill

i say hey, & hug her

somewhat hangingly

she smiles with her affection,

whilst i notice her friend just standing

who’s this you brought with you

is she your bestest friend?

yup – her name is

ms. eliza ‘lizabeth

(hello)

i light up with a bright idea,

hey, let’s play a game:

i call this one Favorites,

name all your favorite things you can name.

(ok)

i say here i’ll start,

i Love Love more than anything,

she smiles, but it’s awkward

so i say & i also like to sing.

she says that’s way cool

maybe i can hear you sometime (yeah)

— my favorite thing’s my best friend,

i’ve known her all of my life

{spoken:}

aww that is sweet –

hey do you want anything to drink?

no i can pay my own,

but yeah i guess let’s go get a cup of coffee

we go up the spiral staircase

to the coffee barista

i order up a depth charge,

she says i’ll get tea,

& we go back downstairs,

there’s a good song blasting thru the air

she says i love it in the autumn,

it’s too beautiful, everywhere

i smile – i like your outfit

i can tell you’re way classe

she says thank you darling,

& moves with a bit of uncontrollable sassy

ok i think my favorite thing is motown

she says watch me do an arm wave

i joke with a she-bop she-bop,

she says oh man, no way

ok one of my favorite things is hair dye,

blueblack looks egyptian,

she says you should do rainbow,

yeah if i could find the beautician

read any good books this year?

oh i don’t know, i guess i read a lot on the webz

there’s some sites i really like

let me guess one is reddit?

yeah … ok a favorite thing is the stars,

– yeah me too, the starlit canopy

hey i think it was clear,

we could go out to the patio if you please

we go out to the breeze,

we’re into each other, we agree

i hum ‘when the moon hits your eye . . .’,

she looks happy.

ok my favorite thing is leonard cohen,

he’s just like a crow . . .

she says yeah jeff buckley used to date liz frazer but now he’s just a ghost

we talk on & on

tubin’ on the river of Life

her friend says maybe they should leave

but she says you can go if you like

harmonica blow (single)

hey should we catch a motion pic’?

she says actually i have netflix . . .

a long pregnant silence ends

with let’s

we go back to her apartment

& we watch a favorite pick of hers

& the night is beautiful

it was itself a motion picture

{outro:}

{guitar:} doo-bee-doo-bee-doo-bee {2 or 3 female voices:} she-bop! she-bop!

{guitar:} doo-bee-doo-bee-doo-bee – {voices:} she-bop! she-bop!

{guitar:} doo-bee-doo-bee-doo-bee – {voices:} she-bop! she-bop!

{guitar:} doo-bee-doo-bee-doo- {song begins to noticeably fade out:} bee – (voices:) she-bop! she-bop! {(possibly cool “so_nice*.flp” or *** type frissiony chimerun)}

Sleeping in the buff, lately . . . ‘free’ . . .

(His philosophy is) “Catholicism mixed with gin.” ~ Jack Kerouac.

Fun trivia:

I stopped watching TV, drinking pop & playing video games when I was 15, only coming back to TV during the political cycle in 2009-2010 or so to watch cable news. “Much happiness,” yes, quitting said things.

Me in a philosophy chatroom again:

Fundamentally, we must focus on 3 things – Truth, Goodness, & Booty. Assthetics is the philosophy of Booty, in all its forms.

I am reminded of a foreign teacher I had who said “We have beautiful beautiful beetches” where she is from.

That was said philosophy.

Me in a philosophy chatroom recently:

Lakitu’s Basic Mathematics.

80085 is ‘the beginning number’ on calculators.

“69” is lucky.

Complete.

I scented my “Art of Love” book with lilac oil just the other day.

http://joevalentyn.org/press/2017/06/10/book-of-court-a-choice-taste-of-the-book-of-court/

http://joevalentyn.org/press/2017/04/12/we-have-infinitely-many-better-things-to-do-with-our-time-than-quarrel/Write
What I’m doing with my life
I am now building my empire.

Prossibly via business.

Like I said, I have about 10 lucrative business ideas, should we choose that walk of Life.

Politics is equally an option, & I am gifted in philosophy & language, helping such a political life.

Lastly I am considering writing 4 or 5 books too: The most essential one is is “The Book Of Court”, about “dating & relationships” (I have about 100 pages of this); & the second is “My,” about the Lovers in my life, in a concrete nonfiction way. I have found my voice in that already & have some concrete pages written up in the style. The third is “Concrete,” about real stuff in a “G.A.N.” tone. The fourth is my biography. & The fifth is “The Training,” a philosophy book.
I’m really good at
I am some amount influential in Politics; here’s some causes I championed earlier than others: http://joevalentyn.org/press/2015/08/01/are-we-making-enough-progress-on-climate-change-inequality-a-following-up-a-tracing-back-of-some-early-bird-gettings-of-mine/

Philosophy & Teaching, too. I was once given head role of the largest/best philosophy chatroom in the world. I made this not to long ago: http://joevalentyn.org/files/Action%20Theory%20Inventory%20%28remake%20-%20betterer…er%29%205a%20%28with%20Cooperation%29.html

Also, Music. Here’s one: http://joevalentyn.org/’s-files-for/OKCupid/play%20%e2%99%ab%20this%20land%20is%20beauty!%20(unfinished%20demo%20%233).mp3

Professional napster. ^_^

=D
My go-to dance
Reimagining this one as “My next music video will be about”:

Me scurrying about on a chessboard being played by two love interests / witches who are revealed to be being deceptively cast spells on by a third sorceror, who is then revealed to be being fought by a security force whose subplot is left narratively unresolved in the music video.Write

Favorite books, movies, shows, music, and food
Ovid’s The Loves.

Roberto Benigni.

The Cure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B3uUcIvUM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chaYm2TqfHM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3diz8I0AVVk.

Alfons Mucha.

Chocolate. Yerba maté (coffee-like drink). Fresh veggie juice. Salmon melts/rolls. Turkey dinners. Breastmeat. ^^ Real raw honey Cough haha. Strawberry lipgloss. Saliva . . . …Cu——– hey – wait a second =| . . . Everything good. ^^ & then some.

(Former 9-year vegan – have all the Tofurky & Follow Your Heart (not-)cheddar-cheese recipes I’ll ever need down good.)

Favorite websites too: OKCupid, New York Times, GirlsAskGuys, Twitter… The Internet’s so inflamed lately…. =/

My site too. Joevalentyn.org.Write
Needs
Six things I could never do without
Girls.

Love.

OK Cupid.

Girls Ask Guys.

My personalia.

Yerba mate.

Extra girls.

Extra yerba mate.Write
I spend a lot of time thinking about
Girls.

Politics.

Sex.

If I should’ve spent that much money on Aaron (my ‘differently-able’ neighbor/friend).

How I’m gonna provide for someone(s).

Courting.

Health.

More Politics.

Philosophy.

Thinking about how I spend too much time thinking about stuff (this leads to venturing somewhere, somehow, a lot.)Write
Moments
On a typical Friday night I am
Listening to Watching Me Fall by The Cure – on loop –

(http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/7642/)

• going out under the stars – breaking skin trying to get with a girl – getting sushi. Loving life!Write
  You should message me if
  “If you like pina coladas… & getting caught in the rain…”

I provide many services; therefore message me if:

Artistically, you want to get ahold a’ my Dick Blix, for fun and/or more-creative purposes.

With your reading-&-writing, you would like if somone penned you ‘double-entendre’ style; “double-penning” both innuendo & also c-theory – “c-lit” – at the same time, in all-out sessions.

Musically, you need a dedicated fiddler of the G spot for overwhelming climaxes from your body of your instrument.

You wanna hardcore rock.

You want a satyrist to play his magic flute for you

Politically, you want the power to fill the gap.

My pole is ready to hang your flag.

Or maybe you’re wanting to orate on my dictophone.

In business terms, you want to get busy.

Philosophically, you have a softspot for very large fallacies.

Because, programmatically, you have a backend that won’t quit. & You’re just looking for the right GUI to handle this billions-of-dollars asset.

Comedically, you want us to do our schtick together.

You are interested in producing a large carrot from your thatch.

When it comes to cooking, your Minnesota hotdish needs some Minnesota hot sauce . . . .

Or, your pussy needs a keeper for her.

Then I’m all yours hun. ^_^

…Somewhat more seriously. ^_^

If you are beautifully brilliant, and also brilliantly beautiful (or something like that);

You are a nympho.

If you love books.

if you have a good laugh.

If’n you’re a carT?Nist.

You are good at music.

You just like me.

You ARE just like me, in some ways.

You want to have oral sex right now. (Joking, (or is that ‘jocking’?) again.)

If you’re a lawyer. I love lawyers. I would finger a lawyer daily. (*)

: As in the term “Badmotorfinger” – to finger ‘f** you’. (note the quotes! order in the courtship!!) ^_^

If you’re very wifey (my real long-term interest.)

Again, you’re sexually a powerhouse.

Then let’s play ‘house’ together. Call 507-363-3356 (new number) & enjoy time with me ? Txt. Click like in the nether regions of our profiles here.

Happy trail,
Joey Valentine
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

p.s. Many of you have been asking about my cock… My cock this, & my cock that… My barndoor is always open. My barndoor is always open. And, you can milk it for as much milk as you want there, if you have a nice cute barn pussy.

p.p.s. Just message me anyway ^_^ haha

This is a metaphilosophy dialogue I led in Undernet #philosophical in January (January_23rd) 2023. It does a lot with a little & many people might appreciate the content – especially since I work to keep it approachable – using real life examples for example. This is very heady to figure & i might add on for example later. For now here is the main course!:

In this I am `lakitu`: