From a dialogue on Libera in ##politics overnite ⸻ I am `lakitu`:
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:44’48”} <violetjewel> hopefully, there will be some leader/movement in palestine/gaza who/that lead palestinians out of this notion that a one-state solution (aka genociding israel) is not a viable option and that a peaceful two-state solution is the only option while every other muslim nation to the north-east has realized that israel isn’t going to disappear. hamas, the governing body of palestine, would in theory{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:44’50”} <violetjewel> attempt to preserve the lives of the people they govern, and yet they constantly pressure the palestinians into intifadas while indiscriminantly firing rockets over the border and then weaponizing the deaths of their own “people” (if you can even call palestinians that) as martyrs while engaging in guerilla terrorism and operating out of civilian infrastructure and storing their weapons under
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:44’52”} <violetjewel> schools, mosques, and hospitals. I’m not saying the Likud is perfect, but the only way forward is a peaceful 2-state solution, and that starts with Palestinians reclaiming their government from guerilla terrorists who want them to be dead martyrs and constantly push for intifadas and genocide.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:50’07”} <violetjewel> Ebert: Have you heard of this thing called COVID-19?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:50’22”} <lakitu> Violet’s got some real political sophistication ⸻ & for such a young age! 💝
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:57’05”} <violetjewel> After a pandemic, if you don’t deficit spend (aka stimulate) then you’re going into a recession / economic collapse. COVID-19 has been hard on us all, and yet that’s hardly Biden’s fault. Investing in the chips act was a wise long-term economic investment. although I do believe there was a bit too much stimulation, america survived far better than many other countries. I do understand that blue
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:57’07”} <violetjewel> collar and lower-class people are feeling the effects from inflation. And that’s tough. I think parts of Harris’ plan to support small businesses, startups, and families are wise, while potentially other aspects such as her economic plans for housing and potentially categorical price caps may be a bit aggressive.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’14”} <violetjewel> recession -> stimulate -> inflation … sucks but that’s that. Of course, America could have dealt with it much more deftly if Trump hadn’t burdened the budget and then refused to cooperate with Biden’s admin after Trump lost 2020 while he was trying to overthrow the election via various abuses of power and manipulation tactics that ultimately failed
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’33”} <violetjewel> *pandemic -> stimulate -> inflation*
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’52”} <spynxic> Ponzi 101
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 12:59’58”} <lakitu> wow: *looks up CHIPS act*
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:00’33”} <lakitu> * *looks up CHIPS act*: wow.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:09’14”} <lakitu> a command economy ⸻ as an extreme example ⸻ is anti supply & anti demand by artificial production cost manipulation for example . . . what Adam Smith taught was: Let the invisible hand of the nationstate’s supply & demand make prices what they ought. were a business to overcharge? buy from someone else. were a business to be unclean? buy from someone who certifies their product meets certain cleanliness standards . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:09’14”} <lakitu> . were a business to not pay enough? work somewhere else ⸻ or start your own business. *do not regulate these things: edify & educate these things ⸻ citing the standard labels ⸻ thus you democratize reasoning for each decision rather than try to impose large scale micromanagement by central planning.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’05”} <IndyJoenz> !findquote penis
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’05”} <makhno> 20 matches, last 5: 1791 2059 2105 2648 2705
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’05”} <makhno> quote 2705 by wroathe: <donky> i envy your penis, sir.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:14’55”} <violetjewel> try living in a country that doesn’t have regulations that cars must have carbon capture devices or regulate food standards. while capitalism does optimize goods and distribution because of competition and consumers voting with their dollar, unregulated capitalism is not viable in a globalized world.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:15’57”} <violetjewel> market meddling is one thing. surgical price caps (eg, insulin caps that trump and biden both mandated from insurance providers) and sane regulations are another
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:21’42”} <lakitu> VioleJjewel: were your populace to not be privvy to ecological threats like CO2 emissions & be edified to practice that responsibility they learned in their lives… then you are at a very small number people in your country trying to manage those travel/energy decisions for ⸻ in America ⸻ 333,000,000 people . . . were the populace to be edified & educated they could piece together the best plan for themselves . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:21’42”} <lakitu> . ‘voting’ with each choice they make ⸻ having 333,000,000 heads put together . . . rather maybe a few thousand heads . . . we actually have 3rd parties establish food standards . . . there are maybe 3 vegan labels I’ve seen for example . . . none are authored by the government . . . they are specialists with expertise
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:22’25”} <kmh> violetjewel, in the case of insulin they just need to open the market
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:23’08”} <kmh> allow reimports from mexico and canada to be sold the across the US and get foreign manufacturers involved
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:23’27”} <kmh> then you may not need a price cap to begin with
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:25’21”} <lakitu> conservatives ⸻ noted for their economic sapience/wisdom ⸻ outnumber liberals 76% to 24% among elders . . . the accepted wisest cohort among age groups . . . it is sapient to follow elders’ lead . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:26’58”} <violetjewel> lakitu: if you decide to not eat vegan, you’re not likely to die. if you die severe food poisoning or get bone tuberculosis / meningitis / kidney failure from from – eg – raw milk when it could have been prevented, that is just immoral. Short-term economic gain will always be valued by a select few at the great expense of the many.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:27’07”} <violetjewel> die from*
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:27’49”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Why are there crossout escape codes in your messages?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:27’55”} <IndyJoenz> strikeout* or whatever
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:28’03”} <violetjewel> kmh: that would probably help. insurance in america is so … bleeped
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:29’04”} <violetjewel> I think it’s just long dashes —test … nvm. something weird
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:29’16”} <lakitu> IndyJoenz: hi. you sound like you mean the dashes.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:30’03”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Ah, yes. I suppose it’s extra wide characters being rendered in a fixed width temrinal. They all look like this: https://0x0.st/X3RH.png
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:30’35”} <lakitu> they are three-em dashes.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:30’56”} <violetjewel> you can use — instead of – eg “hello—this is an interjection—and good bye” or “hello – this is an interjection – and good bye”, but the one you use like … runs into the next letter and slices it in twain
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’20”} <IndyJoenz> how freaking wide do dashes need to be? I use — because I grew up with a typerwriter I guess
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’22”} <lakitu> ah: your client is misrendering them . . . Good to know.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’37”} <lakitu> * *mm*: your client is misrendering them . . . Good to know.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:31’58”} <violetjewel> see https://i.imgur.com/UQJUKS3.png
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:32’25”} <violetjewel> yeah — is also interchangeable with —
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:32’46”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Either the client (irssi), terminal (iterm2 on macos), or both. Or maybe gnu screen is mucking with it, who knows
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:32’49”} <IndyJoenz> there are so many layers to these things
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:33’09”} <violetjewel> terminal renders the font. I use st with FiraCode and a few ligatures.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:33’09”} <IndyJoenz> layers that need wide character support retrofitted in
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’01”} <lakitu> it is either your font or your IRC client (or both). I am in `hexchat` which renders the three-em dash.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’40”} <violetjewel> screen and irssi just throw bytes and escape codes at the terminal that renders them. it’s the terminal. Perhaps non-monospace font clients (eg hexchat (yep- guessed it :D)) fair better
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’46”} <lakitu> or as you’re saying: the terminal / other ‘layers’
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:34’48”} <IndyJoenz> I need to get my head better around how variable width unicode characters work, especially with unix terminals
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:35’33”} <lakitu> I’m in a Palatino Lintoype small-caps font in `hexchat` . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’09”} <IndyJoenz> violetjewel: You would think that screen and irssi just throw bytes unmodified at the terminal. However, in my experience, that is not always the case. I have seen newer unicode characters not render correctly inside of screen, and various ncurses programs. I think it has to do with being compiled against something for Utf-8 support, but using an older Unicode standard.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’21”} <IndyJoenz> but they render in the terminal fine otherwise
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’42”} <IndyJoenz> Something about screen being aware of every character it prints
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:41’50”} <violetjewel> I love my ligatures: -> <=== <–> www 0x0 /= /\ \/ <> … <= >= != =~ [] || *** === ==== —- https://i.imgur.com/HO3bQRt.png
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:42’28”} <IndyJoenz> violetjewel: those are pretty looking. How are you doing that? Terminal setting?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:42’49”} <IndyJoenz> one of those newfangled fancy terminals with hardware rendering and no configuration screen
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:43’05”} <IndyJoenz> only configuration file
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:43’34”} <violetjewel> IndyJoenz: you have to use a font and a terminal that supports them. I’m using FiraCode Nerd, which supports them, and I patched st to support ligatures.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:43’48”} <IndyJoenz> nice
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:44’03”} <violetjewel> most modern terminals support ligatures in some capacity.. kitty, etc. I can’t keep up with all of the names.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:45’36”} <IndyJoenz> oh, nice. my terminal supports it. thank you for pointing me in the right direction
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:45’44”} <lakitu> VioletJewel: may i unbuckle myself from the chat & pm re the ligatures & something related? at least to describe it?
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:51’17”} <violetjewel> lakitu: haha sure my cat started demanding attention and stabbing her sharp bengal needle claws into my leg.. that’s what I get for turning on the light.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 01:51’42”} <lakitu> oh no ⸻ BAD KITTY!!
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:05’44”} <IndyJoenz> hexnewbie: Yeah, but who cares about unix philosophy. I want convenience and I want it now, and I don’t want to learn anything new!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:06’24”} <IndyJoenz> hexnewbie: wait, does it actually do its own backend that it connects to? Or does /detach integrate with screen or something?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:06’50”} <IndyJoenz> one per channel? jesus
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:08’11”} <IndyJoenz> when I first discovered screen it took me a while to remember ^A d to detach. I think if I’d had /detach I would have gone for that instead, retarding my education
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:09’40”} <title> [ Kadyrov Claims 1 Cybertruck Remotely Disabled by Musk, Others Sent to Ukraine ]
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:10’50”} <IndyJoenz> sounds like a trojan horse. Drive your cybertrucks to the battlefield, have them remotely disabled at a critical moment
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:10’56”} <IndyJoenz> elon sux
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:11’28”} <IndyJoenz> true
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:11’49”} <IndyJoenz> Or pack them with explosives like the Israelis did
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:13’14”} <title> [ Project Analyzing Human Language Usage Shuts Down Because ‘Generative AI Has Polluted the Data’ ]
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:14’46”} <nucranium> hexnewbie: we had the theory two days ago that Kadyrov broke it in some stupid way is lying to save face
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:16’02”} <IndyJoenz> The old “user error,” when actually it’s the design that sucks. But let’s blame the user for it breaking
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:18’11”} <lakitu> couple typos: a command economy ⸻ as an extreme example ⸻ is anti supply & anti demand by artificial production cost manipulation for example . . . what Adam Smith taught was: Let the invisible hand of the nationstate’s supply & demand make prices what they ought. **were a business to overcharge? buy from someone else. were a business to be unclean? buy from someone who certifies their product meets certain cleanlin
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:18’11”} <lakitu> ess standards . . . were a business to not pay enough? work somewhere else ⸻ or start your own business. ***do not regulate these things: edify & educate these things ⸻ citing the standard labels ⸻ thus you democratize reasoning for each decision rather than try to impose large scale micromanagement by central planning.***
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:19’45”} <IndyJoenz> You really need to do some kind of regulation of capitalism. Otherwise people will just ruin the environment, price fix, die in unsafe working conditions, etc.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:19’51”} <IndyJoenz> none of that is great
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:19’58”} <nucranium> maybe tried to put Chechen gas in his electric truck
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:21’55”} <IndyJoenz> RCP has Harris +1.0 in Pennsylvania. Finally
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:21’59”} <IndyJoenz> biggest lead yet there, I think
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:23’15”} <IndyJoenz> RCP polling average, that is. Some of the individual polls have her up +4 and +5 points in PA. I really hope that state doesn’t ruin shit for everyone
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:23’35”} <IndyJoenz> Florida 2000 was traumatic enough
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:27’55”} <IndyJoenz> It’s the long odds that pay off!
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:29’23”} <IndyJoenz> I would very much like to see Texas unretard itself and beome a civlized state again. It has become markedly worse since it became red
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:30’11”} <IndyJoenz> so much corruption, rights going byebye. Shit infrastructure. Shit voting rights. Just shit all around since Ann Richards left
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:31’46”} <IndyJoenz> I think Texas is still a ways away. If Ted Cruz loses I will be surprised.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:32’17”} <nucranium> do you think Texas will come in to play in the EC before Florida?
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:33’11”} <IndyJoenz> nucranium: not really. Florida is closer to purple. Maybe Gen Z is a wildcard in this election, though
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:40’05”} <IndyJoenz> Bush/Cheney for Harris!
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> `IndyJoenz`: People ‘vote’: you don’t Like a business being anti-environmentalist? ‘vote’: buy from another business who meets your standard. you don’t Like they don’t reveal their environmental practices? ‘vote’: buy from a business who publishes that information for independent parties to screen & award standard seals. you don’t Like a standard bearer? ‘vote’ by following what you think is a better standard. you can apply
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> these examples to your other examples . . . these are artificial market ⸻ business ⸻ supply & demand conditions: not the real thing. ‘wouldn’t it be nice were there 8 hour work days & weekends off?’ We could arrest People ⸻ imprison Them ⸻ make Them pay large fines . . . *OR:* We could create a culture that appreciates leisure time: Family time ⸻ social time ⸻ Romance time *by *edification* & *educ
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> ation** who *’vote’*: choose to help the companies who practice this & boycott the companies who don’t in order to foster 8 hour work days & weekends off. were there none who do this . . . you could start such a business . . . were a *real* ⸻ unartificial ⸻ market demanding the right amount for the supply via that business . . . try to apply these examples to your examples ⸻ I will leave that exercise to the reade
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’02”} <lakitu> r . . .
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’35”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I would rather stop them before the river is ruined.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’39”} <IndyJoenz> Maybe I’m just a conservative like that
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:41’46”} <IndyJoenz> you know, conserving the environment
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:42’15”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I am not an anarchist
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:43’14”} <IndyJoenz> hexnewbie: they should be on stage commenting on porn together
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:43’17”} <IndyJoenz> it would be so maga
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:44’31”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I am aware of supply and demand and market forces. I am also aware of the history of industrialization, which is why all of that is a bullshit way of dealing with problems (no offense)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:45’07”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: at least, certain problems, like the ones I mentioned
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:45’11”} <title> [ Gen Z’s First Comedy Show (4m7s) Taylor Tomlinson ]
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:51’47”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: In other words, the fantasy that unregulated capitalism leads to utopia and solves all problems, is just that: religion, a fantasy, make-belief fairy tale. Absolutist thinking. I say this as a capitalist. When left to its own devices, businesses exploit and eat people alive.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’52”} <IndyJoenz> It’s just as fantastical thinking as hardcore communism
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’54”} <lakitu> IndyJoenz: you could circumvent *edification* ⸻ *education* for your People . . . swing to action by forcing: prior to your people’s edification & education ⸻ hold your thumb to the river eyeballing how it should be ⸻ & ⸻ with said force ⸻ make them: forcibly jailing ⸻ levying large fines to force this change that was not an edified ⸻ educated populace’s decision . . . with everything learned doing t
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’54”} <lakitu> hat not going to expansive edified educated enviornmental policies . . . & the experience for other things it has . . . OR: we could edifiy & educate the populace . . . maybe not stop polluting a river in an iota of time… yet edify & educate on what is involved . . . the more it’s worth: the better, more People We can get for this . . . & make a healthy decision as a People ⸻ with each required specialist being involve
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:52’54”} <lakitu> d in a free ⸻ including free speech ⸻ free press ⸻ free association ⸻ & other expression freedom form ⸻ to literally let the People decide what is best . . . that We ⸻ edified & educated ⸻ ‘vote’ for by buying our businesses who meet our standards . . . (& boycotting ones who do not.)
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:53’12”} <nucranium> no one reads walls of text
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:53’27”} <nucranium> ideal reply should be approximate size of line you’re replying to
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:53’40”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Yeah your text is really fucking hard to read, with all the strikeout penta-dashes and lack of line breaks or periods.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:55’51”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I recommend going to a public school and learning English punctuation
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:56’04”} <IndyJoenz> the government pays for it, you know
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:56’09”} <IndyJoenz> you could really benefit
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:56’33”} <IndyJoenz> sscout: into a translator, yes
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:57’23”} <nucranium> i can’t see ejaculate
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:57’45”} <title> [ Wine over u – original song by Melle (3m55s) Melle Baby Music ]
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:58’07”} <nucranium> arrrggh /o\
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:59’32”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: Are you in a cult?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 02:59’42”} <IndyJoenz> you sound like a cultie
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:00’47”} <lakitu> only the best religion `IndyJoenz`: Christianity.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:01’50”} <lakitu> * ** the best religion `IndyJoenz`: Christianity.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:03’59”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: If you are a Christian, then why do you idolize a false prophet in your faith in a free market to solve everyone’s problems? Seems antithetical to what Jesus was about
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:05’05”} <IndyJoenz> Also why did you put “* **” like that?
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:05’27”} <lakitu> I am beginning to suspect toll presence
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:05’45”} <nucranium> a toll is being taken, yes
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’05”} * nucranium has irl stuff to do
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’10”} <GomJabbar_> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631 <<=– GOP Policies kill women
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’11”} <title> [ A dramatic rise in pregnant women dying in Texas after abortion ban ]
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:06’37”} <lakitu> * I am beginning to suspect t*r*oll presence
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:07’29”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I’m not trolling. I find it genuinely insulting to Christianity to put capitalism above everything else, above all of the things Jesus taught
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:07’33”} <IndyJoenz> very serious
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:08’06”} <IndyJoenz> or rather, it does not sound geuine when you preach one thing but call yourself something else
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:08’18”} <IndyJoenz> since you are preaching some other religion here. not Christianity
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:09’25”} <nucranium> jesus wanted a bull market
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:10’01”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: It does not sound genuine, I meant. Sorry. I did not mean to break your translator
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:11’49”} <spynxic> https://www.youtube.com/live/Dq-9EnpephE
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:11’49”} <title> [ Thursday Night Debate Breakdown: Munk Debate on Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism (2h7m42s) Give Them An Argument w/Ben Burgis ]
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’08”} * nucranium is now known as ChristWolf
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’10”} <ChristWolf> I have risen
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’31”} <spynxic> hexnewbie: I didn’t link a debate
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’35”} * ChristWolf is now known as nucranium
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:12’45”} <spynxic> I linked an analysis of propaganda
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:14’54”} <lakitu> you used “religion” as a pejorative ⸻ meaning bad word ⸻ then said I sound Like I am in a cult ⸻ then said I ⸻ without knowing how much I pray for example ⸻ do not follow Jesus’s teachings enough ⸻ then said I practice “some other religion” . . . you have changed your & tried to change my religion three times now in around 23 minutes . . . & expect the audience not to despair at your antics . . . you m
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:14’54”} <lakitu> ake the bed you lie in.
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{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:20’04”} <IndyJoenz> lakitu: I honestly don’t think you take your religion seriously when you express extreme capitalist absolutist views. They are not compatible. Your faith is in capitalism, not Jesus, clearly.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:21’29”} <IndyJoenz> It shows how quickly you are willing to dismiss your supposed “convictions”
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:22’03”} <IndyJoenz> it’s not a serious position to claim both.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:22’26”} <CommunistWolf> What a combination
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:22’46”} <lakitu> I Like Girls ⸻ I Like music ⸻ I Like poetry . . . I can Like many People & things without putting “faith” “in” them “not Jesus”.
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:23’43”} <CommunistWolf> In fairness, it’s not faith we want to put in girls
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:23’48”} <CommunistWolf> Huehehehe
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:24’18”} * IndyJoenz howls to the moon
{central U.S. time CDT (-0500) am 03:26’01”} <IndyJoenz> 7 more hours and I can rinse/blow my nose. sigh
