I am starting a ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡…-SYSTEM & a Justice System, having us using n-dimension language I earlier circulated on this personal web home & life philosophy & other philosophy.

⸻ Joe Valentyn

I invented a new computer editor (sic; editer) based on my phitlosophy tensors plural years ago & am here declaring it contra anti it plaigiarism: it is a tensor – or in a special case: a matrix – to edit any parameter an element has using a computer tensor (or matrix) to look thru & change a parameter. It is very easy & very powerful to change any nouns’ parameters point & click or simple data entry form. I do not see this used & thus declare I invented the tensor (& matrix) computer editor (sic; editer).

⸻ Joe Valentyn

Thank You To Everyone For Everything – I wouldn’t be alive wihtout a few special people, & the Female Church are the true best leaders on this planet; they have helped me with Spiritual Cleansings, & other prayer, & helped guide me to a better direction for My Life; many sinning men have wronged me egregiously, grievously, but the Female Church members have brought sapience & wisdom to this & We have won over the demon-ridden & drug delirious, & thus for them I am very thankful.

My Girls have worked as hard as me *or more* every step, & are bound to inherit that from to the victor go the spoils; your Beauty is only met by your diligence, patience, serenity, & balls. Together forever, never leave somehow you don’t have to!! I **LOVE** You!

Thank you to My Parents who – especially My Mom – have protected me from ravenous wolves in this county & beyond, & I am still hale & haven’t made any extreme trades for it, that I am happy for.

⸻ Joe!

(In this I am “lakitu”; this is in a philosophy chatroom around midnight overnight last night:)

{01:29:38 am} <lakitu> “your odds of being struck by lightning are 1 in a 1,000,000” – we’ve all heard these odds before, but I feel so strongly about the usefulness of real-life stats that I would ‘like to see – because it would be better – media teach the most helpful stats in Life – & put them in perspective with comparisons ‘like “(…), comparable to your odds of be


{01:29:38 am} <lakitu> ing struck by lightning” – & try to teach helpful things like protocols, best practices for dealing with these situations should they arise


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{01:36:23 am} <lakitu> e.g. instead of “building collapses, horror as everyone searches thru the rubble – day 6” – e.g. “car accidents affect 1 in 100 in the U.S. – here are the top 7 ways to prevent being the victim of a car accident: (…)”;


{01:36:31 am} <lakitu> (Wb fattratt)


{01:36:38 am} <fattratt> hi


{01:38:21 am} <lakitu> I think that would – almost necessarily – help more people more, to proportion our media to that ‘statisticality’ (oftenness) & importance of events – not that you do a terrible job now, but to consciously use this principle could help out editors & publishers.


{01:39:57 am} <lakitu> very sought-after for me is an alamanc of Life phenomena & their statistics – one of those very comprehensive reference works that does the best it can to estimate just every nook & cranny of Life. I think that would be one of the best reference-work reads for people


{01:41:57 am} <fattratt> I need to lie down for a bit.


{01:42:01 am} <lakitu> ok


{01:42:05 am} <lakitu> c u.


{01:43:20 am} <lakitu> everything from getting struck by lightning to getting abused by a spouse to winning the lottery to getting a hole in one in golf. what is Life ‘like? this would concentrate it together in one reference work pretty good.


{01:43:26 am} <lakitu> (sic)


{01:45:08 am} <lakitu> we maybe could teach some basic statistics in earlier mathematics education – maybe even high school; potentially.


{01:46:06 am} <lakitu> some teachers I know want algebra phased out of high-school education. maybe staatistics could occupy some of what used to be algebra.


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{01:48:19 am} <lakitu> it always helped me to learn that the odds of two events happening in a row are the multiplication of their odds: e.g. predicting a coin flip twice in a row is 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4 (25% chance). predicting it correctly a 3rd time just multiplies it again, 1/4 * 1/2 = 1/8 (12.5% chance), etc.


{01:53:32 am} <lakitu> Bayes, of Bayeesian probability, was actually a Presbyterian minister, by the way. kind of like how Roger Bacon, one of empiricism’s earliest formulators, was a Franciscan Friar.


{01:58:54 am} <lakitu> but yes, statistics – in proportion to how helpful they are to know: likelihood * importance – could be a better governing principle for journalism than happenstance or worse, Twitter bots sowing discord & creating artificial waves of culture that we weren’t asking for


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{02:02:30 am} <lakitu> * importance * likelihood


{02:03:36 am} <Fixion> hey lakitu hows things?


{02:03:52 am} <lakitu> statistical & of their own importance.


{02:04:02 am} <Fixion> what questions can math not solve?


{02:04:53 am} <lakitu> not all questions are things to be solved . . .


{02:09:50 am} <lakitu> – or for example how often someone loses their dog, ways to prevent this, what to do if you lose your dog. that has such educational value that it’s ‘like a public service announcement – it’s that helpful– not that all journalism should be this sort of thing, but it really is helpful to proportion the content to the importance times the likelihood


{02:09:50 am} <lakitu> .


{02:15:40 am} <lakitu> we can still publish interviews & essays, & so on – these are great – but this is just one extra helpful format for articles by journalists.

“I Can Hear Music”, composed by Ellie Greenwich, & recorded by The Ronettes. When was there ever better?

Title restored to original Saturday, August the 14th, 2021.

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From my Facebook, adapted to you guys:

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Hey lovers, mentors, friends, family, acquaintances, co-workers – anyone else?: ‘Things are likely to get bumpy coming up’, a certain segment of us feel.

Look at e.g government lists, & blogs, & everywhere, for lists of items that may be the difference between say weeks of suffering & smooth sailing, when things you can’t do without – water, food, heat / A/C, etc etc etc become needed.

You can save yourself hours or maybe weeks of hassle – as a low estimate – by going over these lists & ordering stuff now.

There’s indoor/outdoor gardens, there’s vacuum-sealed foods in glass jars, there’s canned foods, like wild-caught salmon, or soups, there’s fermented foods, there’s Minnesota-grown rice, pasta noodles, whey powder / protein bars / jerky / nuts – here’s one list i made but certainly you should try to look at several & just set yourself up for success by planning & preparing:

Survival For All Disaster Situations: Ideas Drawn From Our Basic Needs, by Joe Valentyn

Please do take the proper time in all necessary sobriety to address these risks (running out of basic things, over ‘the next while’), for you & your family, & remind people you know to do the same.

We all saw this crunch in January – June 2020! Wonderful to see people like ****** ***** helping others get stuff, & I think **** ******** was too. Someday you might be that guy who just needs a t-shirt or bag of Minnesota rice! Means a lot!

– Really do this!!

– Joe

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In fact I found that this insurgence, “Romantics”, was more an act of damnation (do we say cursedness?) against the many who’d come to read it, thru some trolls of envy, YouTube suggestions– some influence, & against my Love.

Thus, I have condemned this emprise as a building of no descent. Apologies for those caught in transit, during this time. Maybe I suffered worse than even you!

One of my ultimate favorites. First hearing this age 14 or so makes it never really get old.

– Joe
June 15th, 2020
Minnesota, USA

A previous version of this had acquired a typo, but is now subdued.

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{09:17:35 pm:} <Impresario> well you guys, i think i got & beat corona (or something like it), using Andrew Saul’s protocol for pneumonia, etc.
{09:18:28 pm:} <Impresario> i took regular vitamin C’s (not liposomals) up to every 6 mins, & that overcame it fairly well
{09:18:40 pm:} <Impresario> (about 1g)
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{09:19:03 pm:} <kblom> yeou should send it to Trump or Fauci
{09:19:29 pm:} <Impresario> the protocol?
{09:19:46 pm:} <Impresario> hey btw . . .
{09:19:48 pm:} <kblom> I’d expect a more reasonable response from Fauci
{09:20:29 pm:} <Impresario> i’ve used it before for upper respiratory infections, including what seemed like pneumonia one winter
{09:20:46 pm:} <Impresario> which is why i had confidence in it
{09:20:50 pm:} <Impresario> or part of the reason
{09:21:39 pm:} <Impresario> here’s that video again: http://joevalentyn.org/press/andrew-w-saul-phd-on-curing-infectious-diseases-including-pneumonia-the-flu-influenza-colds-with-vitamin-c/
{09:21:41 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: Andrew W. Saul, PhD on Curing Infectious Diseases, including Pneumonia, the Flu (Influenza), & Colds, with Vitamin C ⸻ ♡, Joe Valentyn
{09:21:42 pm:} <`411> — “Andrew W. Saul, PhD on Curing Infectious Diseases, including Pneumonia, the Flu (Influenza), & Colds, with Vitamin C ⸻ ♡, Joe Valentyn”
{09:23:05 pm:} <kblom> my doctor told me that megadoses of vitamin C were worthless
{09:23:21 pm:} <Impresario> i’m sorry your Doctor told you that
{09:23:41 pm:} <Impresario> – at one point i got some shortness of breath & considered whether i’d have to go in to urgent care, etc. fortunately it was effective & i didn’t have to
{09:25:08 pm:} <Impresario> ask your Doctor if he’s ever treated upper respiratory infections, for example, with them, or if he even knows it is antibiotic, antiviral, etc, at higher doses
{09:25:12 pm:} <kblom> buf it works for you, I don’t think it will harm you. but that’s not my are of expertise
{09:25:25 pm:} <kblom> err area
{09:27:30 pm:} <Impresario> if you’re not diligent & don’t start right away at the first sign of infection, like you always should, then you can still use IV vitamin C in a hospital. they do up to 50,000mg (50g) in 4 hours, i heard
{09:28:04 pm:} <mControlFreq> Zinc stops a cold in its tracks
{09:28:14 pm:} <Impresario> the mil says that, mControlFreq
{09:28:35 pm:} <Impresario> they also had good results with colds with another natural medicine i won’t mention here
{09:28:45 pm:} <friida> that’a aPauling
{09:28:48 pm:} <Impresario> (so to not confuse people)
{09:28:49 pm:} <Impresario> lol
{09:28:50 pm:} <Impresario> friida
{09:28:59 pm:} <Impresario> i knew i would get associated with Linus, here.
{09:29:06 pm:} <Impresario> brb, breakfast. i feel good!
{09:29:30 pm:} <mControlFreq> 50g of vit C in 4 hours would kill you
{09:30:07 pm:} <Impresario> no, no it wouldn’t
{09:30:30 pm:} <Impresario> try reading Andrew Saul’s book on vitamin C
{09:30:45 pm:} <mControlFreq> Check your units
{09:30:51 pm:} <Impresario> also i said IV
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{09:31:00 pm:} <Impresario> you did not specify.
{09:31:27 pm:} <Impresario> check your sources
{09:32:18 pm:} <Impresario> Dr. Mercola says IV vitamin C is “virtually risk free”, as opposed to what Freq just stated.
{09:32:37 pm:} <Impresario> Dr. Mercola is a D.O who ran a hospital, in the Chicago metro.
{09:32:43 pm:} <Impresario> & runs his own clinic.
{09:33:19 pm:} <mControlFreq> Heading to my desktop
{09:33:24 pm:} <Impresario> i also said up to.
{09:34:09 pm:} <Impresario> you will get scurvy & die without vitamin C. many sailors did for many centuries.
{09:34:59 pm:} <Impresario> “During the Age of Exploration (between 1500 and 1800), it has been estimated that scurvy killed at least two million sailors.” ~ Wikipedia
{09:35:11 pm:} <kblom> for some reason my doctor regard megadoses of vitamin C as snake oil
{09:35:14 pm:} <Impresario> “Foo’.”
{09:35:59 pm:} <Impresario> “Scurvy is a disease resulting from a lack of vitamin C (ascorbic acid).[1]” ~ first line of Wikipedia on scurvy.
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{09:37:28 pm:} <kblom> she says to consume the recommended amount of vitamin C to avoid scurvy
{09:38:51 pm:} <kblom> we don’t want scurvy
{09:39:42 pm:} <kblom> so occasionally I eat an orange
{09:40:04 pm:} <kblom> they’re very difficult
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{09:43:04 pm:} <Impresario> “Dr. Ronald Hunninghake is an internationally recognized expert on vitamin C who has personally supervised more than 60,000 intravenous (IV) vitamin C administrations.”
{09:43:58 pm:} <kblom> what kind of crazy name is Hunninghake?
{09:44:09 pm:} <Impresario> “Dr. Hunninghake expounds on this issue:
{09:44:09 pm:} <Impresario> “Now, just to put that into perspective for the average person, if we were to measure someone off the street, their blood level would be about 1 mg/dl if they’re eating a fairly decent diet. If they’re less than 0.6 mg per dl, they’re into a scurvy type range of vitamin C.
{09:44:09 pm:} <Impresario> But what we’re talking about for a post-IVC saturation level, giving, let’s say 25 to 50 grams of vitamin C intravenously over about a 90-minute period, is in the 200 to 300 mg/dl range.
{09:44:09 pm:} <Impresario> So we’re talking about 200 to 300 times the normal amount of vitamin C that your blood normally experiences just eating a balanced diet.””
{09:45:15 pm:} <Impresario> fyi…
{09:48:20 pm:} <Impresario> few things have i gotten as much resistance against sharing as natural medicine knowledge.
{09:49:05 pm:} <kblom> nutritional science not vey well respected
{09:50:02 pm:} <kblom> they’ve got to get better
{09:50:17 pm:} <Impresario> i don’t know what you’re talking about, who does
{09:51:02 pm:} <kblom> like how much of which nutrients to eat for optimal health
{09:52:27 pm:} <Impresario> are you sure corporations don’t create a conflict of interest, e.g corporate “studies” saying sugar is not the culprit, (healthy) fats are?
{09:52:41 pm:} <Impresario> https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html
{09:52:44 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat – The New York Times
{09:52:44 pm:} <`411> — “How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat – The New York Times”
{09:52:48 pm:} <kblom> when I see a book about nutrition, I don’t respect what it says very much
{09:52:55 pm:} <Impresario> ^
{09:53:29 pm:} <Impresario> the famous Ancel Keys study.
{09:55:23 pm:} <Impresario> maybe you should’ve listened to your Doctor & taken Avandia, the deadly & recalled drug that killed 60,000 people recently.
{09:56:49 pm:} <kblom> my doctor did not recommend Avandia. but she did recommend a few effective drugs
{09:56:54 pm:} <Impresario> which is not some one-off for the business of medical studies: https://www.livescience.com/8365-dark-side-medical-research-widespread-bias-omissions.html
{09:56:56 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: Dark Side of Medical Research: Widespread Bias and Omissions | Live Science
{09:56:58 pm:} <`411> — “Dark Side of Medical Research: Widespread Bias and Omissions | Live Science”
{09:57:14 pm:} <Impresario> my Doctor recommended Darvocet. Darvocet was later recalled
{09:57:20 pm:} <Impresario> also Midodrine.
{09:57:34 pm:} <Impresario> (just to be clear: Midodrine was later recalled.)
{09:59:20 pm:} <Impresario> kblom: if i give you peppermint candies all day that might be effective for stomach ache, but is safe to eat sugary candies all day?
{09:59:32 pm:} <Impresario> no, it is not.
{09:59:56 pm:} <Impresario> *if i give you peppermint candies all day[,] that might be effective for stomach ache, but is safe to eat sugary candies all day?
{10:00:16 pm:} <Impresario> there is a difference between one sign being positive & all signs being positive
{10:01:16 pm:} <Impresario> how long would it take to appraise all the possibilities required for such things?
{10:01:32 pm:} <Impresario> longer than it took to “study” Avandia.
{10:02:12 pm:} <Impresario> longer than it took to “study” Darvocet. & longer than it took to “study” Midodrine. look up “post-marketing”
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{10:03:31 pm:} <kblom> neer heard of those drugs
{10:03:56 pm:} <Impresario> yeah – you might ask yourself why, on that too –
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{10:04:34 pm:} <kblom> no I won’t
{10:04:51 pm:} <Impresario> your head is harder than that, huh =D
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{10:07:04 pm:} <Impresario> you might ask yourself why natural, e.g herbal medicines that have been around for **thousands of years** in human society ‘have not been scientifically tested’ but factory sludge out of Johnson & Johnson’s lab is “proven to be effective” medication, etc, etc, etc, after being created in a laboratory in the 1980s & studied for only 7 years.
{10:08:17 pm:} <Impresario> things like vitamin C are not patentable, things like Avandia & Darvocet & Midodrine are patentable.
{10:08:36 pm:} <Impresario> which does your Doctor prescribe you more?
{10:08:52 pm:} <Impresario> which do your Doctor prescribe you more?
{10:09:47 pm:} <Impresario> my Doctor never prescribed me anything but patentable, synthetic medications. ever.
{10:09:58 pm:} <Impresario> they just happened to be “healthiest”.
{10:10:44 pm:} <Impresario> (compared to natural foods like vegetables, herbs, fish, etc, & natural medicines like vitamin C or vitamin D3.)
{10:11:39 pm:} <kblom> my doctor barely prescribes anything .her best was this new stuff to eliminate small insect parasites, like scabies and fleas. I’d call it a miracle drug
{10:12:12 pm:} <Impresario> garlic, oregano oil; we have around 400,000 species of plants on Earth. vegeteables slash death risk by up 42% (with enough servings a day). not one time could’ve i been prescribed a natural food, medicine?
{10:12:15 pm:} <kblom> it eliminates lice, too
{10:13:02 pm:} <Impresario> well – that is not representative of America. you might look up how many are prescribed pharmaceuticals, kblom.
{10:13:03 pm:} <kblom> your body becomes immune to creatures like that
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{10:15:17 pm:} <kblom> I don’t have a grudge against pharmaceuticl industry. if I had diabtws and needed insulin I might
{10:16:47 pm:} <kblom> they did a good job against AIDS and Ebola
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{10:19:00 pm:} <Impresario> so in the face of facts you say mentioning recalled medications, & the fact they virtually never prescribe natural foods & medicines is “carrying a grudge”, by your characterization
{10:19:42 pm:} <kblom> lakitu I don’t care about this at all
{10:19:44 pm:} <Impresario> i’m not sure the widows & husbands who lost their wives– & parents– from Avandia feel that way
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{10:19:57 pm:} <Impresario> then why do you intercede?
{10:20:27 pm:} <Impresario> a quote from the article in livescience: “Turner knows all too well about such problems. He shook up the medical community in 2008 when he reported that unpublished studies about antidepressants made the drugs appear to work much better than they really did. Of 74 antidepressant studies registered with the FDA, 37 studies that showed positive resul
{10:20:27 pm:} <Impresario> ts ended up being published. By contrast, studies that showed iffy or negative results mostly ended up going unpublished or had their data distorted to appear positive, Turner found. The missing or skewed studies helped create the impression that 94 percent of antidepressant trials had produced positive results, according to Turner’s analysis, pub
{10:20:27 pm:} <Impresario> lished in the New England Journal of Medicine. In reality, all the studies together showed just 51-percent positive results.”
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{10:22:00 pm:} <kblom> send that to Trump or Fauci, not me
{10:22:07 pm:} <fattratt> hello bipeds
{10:22:17 pm:} <kblom> hi rat
{10:22:32 pm:} <Impresario> it’s philosophy of health, etc
{10:22:57 pm:} <Impresario> i didn’t send this terrible life-saving information to you =S
{10:23:06 pm:} <Impresario> =s*
{10:23:28 pm:} <Impresario> “For instance, a past analysis of clinical trials supporting new drugs approved by the FDA showed that just 43 percent of more than 900 trials on 90 new drugs ended up being published. In other words, about 60 percent of the related studies remained unpublished even five years after the FDA had approved the drugs for market. That meant physicians
{10:23:28 pm:} <Impresario> were prescribing the drugs and patients were taking them without full knowledge of how well the treatments worked. “We think that at least half of full trials never reach publication, maybe more,” Dickersin said.”
{10:23:35 pm:} <Impresario> more from the meta-analysis.
{10:23:51 pm:} <Impresario> on LiveScience.
{10:24:41 pm:} <Impresario> hey fattratt –
{10:25:21 pm:} <Impresario> brb, getting some food. hmm do i have any plastic or chemicals in the fridge – i wonder that i could go for some ammonia… </joke>
{10:25:56 pm:} <Impresario> just cook up the plastic on the stove, & waft those wonderful fumes, lolol
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{10:33:17 pm:} <Impresario> 222440 <+Impresario> hey fattratt –
{10:33:17 pm:} <Impresario> 222519 <+Impresario> brb, getting some food. hmm do i have any plastic or chemicals in the fridge – i wonder that i could go for some ammonia… </joke>
{10:33:17 pm:} <Impresario> 222554 <+Impresario> just cook up the plastic on the stove, & waft those wonderful fumes, lolol
{10:33:17 pm:} <Impresario> 222558 *+Impresario* laughs
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{10:36:45 pm:} <Impresario> no actually i’m going to have a Caesar salmon-chicken wrap – one of my favorites.
{10:37:02 pm:} <Impresario> – & some asparagus.
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{10:40:39 pm:} <artalien> Reality is an ICU dead
{10:41:19 pm:} <Impresario> talking about Boris Johnson?
{10:41:44 pm:} <artalien> Sure we experience x differently but there are certain facts that cannot be denied.
{10:42:11 pm:} <artalien> sorry to hear you might have the virus, joe
{10:42:19 pm:} <Impresario> i think i overcame it artalien
{10:42:28 pm:} <Impresario> see above
{10:42:34 pm:} <artalien> In 24 hours?
{10:42:40 pm:} <Impresario> about 2.5-3 days
{10:42:40 pm:} <Impresario> or so
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{10:43:01 pm:} <artalien> jeez, that’s pretty niffty
{10:43:08 pm:} <kblom> he says he killed it with vitamin C
{10:43:32 pm:} <artalien> well…….
{10:43:34 pm:} <Impresario> frequent dosing with liposomal vitamin C &– ah, kblom trying to play word games with viruses & verbs, here
{10:44:20 pm:} <Impresario> with liposomal vitamin C & regular oral.
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{10:45:01 pm:} <Impresario> was goig to say – the lettuce will be properly washed of Ready Round-Up glyphosate –
{10:45:05 pm:} <Impresario> as i was mentioning before
{10:45:18 pm:} <kblom> I guess killed is a verb and vitamin C is a noun
{10:45:29 pm:} <Impresario> kblom: why couldn’t you metaphorically say it?
{10:45:41 pm:} <Impresario> like ‘the bottles are done, we killed each one’?
{10:46:20 pm:} <Impresario> since you’re trying to set up with agreeing to this apparent misnomer?
{10:46:25 pm:} <Impresario> since you’re trying to set me up with agreeing to this apparent misnomer?
{10:46:36 pm:} <Impresario> this time & last time?
{10:47:39 pm:} <Impresario> maybe yous want to add some glyphosate as a topping on your salads? =|
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{10:50:03 pm:} <kblom> hi guerro
{10:50:18 pm:} <Impresario> ‘will you be wanting any glyphosate atop your salad, monsieur?’ – ‘no, add the methylmercury & find me some good DDT, tho. & the real stuff, none of these natural substitutes.”
{10:50:25 pm:} <Impresario> “/’
{10:51:05 pm:} * Impresario has guerro on /ignore, fyi…
{10:52:16 pm:} <kblom> laitu but guerro is very good
{10:52:21 pm:} <Impresario> oh.
{10:52:45 pm:} <Impresario> how long have you two known one another?
{10:53:23 pm:} <Impresario> haha
{10:54:47 pm:} <kblom> I met gueror a few months ago in rebelyell, he was more rational than the others
{10:54:56 pm:} <Impresario> quite a bit of anarchy for recommending vitamins & vegetables i’ll have to say – “What a maroon!” ~ Bugs Bunny
{10:55:01 pm:} <Impresario> i see
{10:55:38 pm:} <Chryslos> “majestic morons of idiate wisdom unlimited”
{10:55:55 pm:} <Impresario> guerro topped the members of #rebelyell – marden, yourself, me ^_^
{10:56:27 pm:} <kblom> I believe that
{10:56:43 pm:} <Impresario> to whom are you speaking, kblom?
{10:57:23 pm:} <kblom> everyone opresent
{10:58:08 pm:} <Impresario> ok… well that’s strange.
{10:58:13 pm:} <kblom> guerro yes it is
{10:58:33 pm:} <Chryslos> uh
{10:58:51 pm:} <Chryslos> have any of you used the recreational program “hylics”?
{10:58:51 pm:} <Impresario> you met guerro a few months ago & think she/he is more rational than you are, than marden is, & than i am, then
{10:59:28 pm:} <Impresario> are you prone to say at this time that guerro is more rational than JohnGuru, kblom?
{11:01:01 pm:} <kblom> lakitu maybe
{11:01:06 pm:} <Impresario> maybe, huh =D
{11:01:15 pm:} <artalien> calm down, maybe you did and maybe you didn’t cure covid-19 by taking vitamin C. Apply philosophy how will you prove it
{11:01:36 pm:} <Icarium> lol nobody cured shit with vitamin C
{11:01:42 pm:} <Icarium> except suckers from their full wallets
{11:01:45 pm:} <Impresario> i will say “maybe” you are speaking under the adverse effects of some pharmaceutical drug
{11:02:05 pm:} <artalien> oh dear
{11:02:20 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium: sorry, it’s you vs. Ron Hunninghake, Thomas Levy, Dr. Mercola, Andrew Saul, when it comes to vitamin C
{11:02:58 pm:} <Impresario> last time you misread the first line of a study discussing it’s preventative effectiveness against pneumonia– i could cite again– & said it disproved all its effectiveness for such
{11:02:58 pm:} <artalien> See this is what I have been trying to highlight, 5G causes covid-19
{11:03:09 pm:} <Icarium> 5G is actually okay
{11:03:17 pm:} <Impresario> haha artalien.
{11:03:18 pm:} <Icarium> and pretty cool
{11:03:58 pm:} <Impresario> well i’m glad you’ve looked into it & disproven it _Sol_ (“*not*”)
{11:04:05 pm:} <Impresario> etc
{11:04:09 pm:} <Icarium> no, it is not me, I’m merely part of a broader coalition including the overwhelming majority of real doctors, the CDC, and the FDA
{11:04:16 pm:} <Impresario> mm
{11:04:39 pm:} <Icarium> the only people who benefit from vitamin C are those deficient in vitamin C
{11:04:48 pm:} <artalien> It is a symptom of a severe lack of trust in authority
{11:04:52 pm:} <kblom> lakitu but I remember john’s Earth is Flat dialectic and you don’t
{11:04:54 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium that was you who said it
{11:04:58 pm:} <Impresario> we covered this last time
{11:05:10 pm:} <Impresario> kblom: oh…
{11:05:23 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium: we covered studies
{11:06:11 pm:} <Impresario> so if the whole medical establishment feelts vitamin C is not effective against e.g pneumonia prevention, then that would be their problem.
{11:06:37 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium: also we just discussed the FDA… Avandia, Darvocet, Midodrine
{11:06:42 pm:} <Impresario> how about DDT, BPA, umm
{11:07:14 pm:} <Impresario> there’s quite a few
{11:07:20 pm:} <Icarium> it’s not an argument, I’m merely informing anyone who might be uninformed that vitamin C curing any infection is quack science
{11:07:29 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium: you’re not worth my time
{11:07:32 pm:} <Impresario> – i’m sorry.
{11:07:59 pm:} <Icarium> good, give it up
{11:08:25 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium claims superiority over Dr. Ron Hunninghake & Dr. Thomas Levy on vitamin C
{11:10:03 pm:} <Icarium> some arguments have no clear winner, like variations in ethics
{11:10:10 pm:} <Icarium> those can be argued to death forever
{11:10:15 pm:} <Icarium> but this ain’t one of those arguments
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{11:11:04 pm:} <artalien> Imp what is a stake here your reputation, let the fuckers chance covid-19 without the vits
{11:11:05 pm:} <artalien> why are you such a strong advocate
{11:11:37 pm:} <Impresario> how’d he do it? he just feels that stimulated, it seems, haha – pure inappropriate aggressiveness is the cause celebre here
{11:11:54 pm:} <Impresario> ‘if i was there i’d punch you in the face’
{11:12:12 pm:} <Impresario> ~ reason to not take vitamin C in cases of pneumonia onset, etc etc etc
{11:12:48 pm:} <Impresario> you can’t get better medical science information than that
{11:14:16 pm:} <Impresario> _Sol_, you’re an interesting contributor
{11:15:04 pm:} <Icarium> the only doctor you should take supplement advice from is your actual doctor
{11:15:14 pm:} <Impresario> what about 2nd opinions?
{11:15:30 pm:} <Impresario> what about when they say to take Darvocet? or Midodrine? or Avandia?
{11:15:40 pm:} <Impresario> “Foo’.”
{11:15:41 pm:} <Impresario> lol
{11:15:56 pm:} <Icarium> not some random internet doctor
{11:16:02 pm:} <LionClan> I wouldn’t rely on Dr Trump for an opinion
{11:17:36 pm:} <Impresario> guy has been doing medicine for 40 years or so, publiciziing & getting peer-reviewed for 23. Icarium recommends that goofy guy at your clinic who misinterpreted your symptoms & diagnosed you as having no sickness / a cold despite throwing up etc etc etc
{11:17:50 pm:} <Icarium> there is no privileged information on covid19, you can check multiple sources on it
{11:17:55 pm:} <Impresario> or that guy who prescribed vicodin / opioids
{11:17:58 pm:} <Icarium> everyone and their dog is writing about it
{11:18:05 pm:} <Impresario> & almost got you killed
{11:18:25 pm:} <Impresario> vicodin/opioids*
{11:20:41 pm:} <Icarium> Linux Pauling’s entire body of research was discredited
{11:20:55 pm:} <Impresario> the fact is, natural dietary supplements are found to be– using official government & NGO data– 68,000 times safer than synthetic pharmacueticals –
{11:20:56 pm:} <Icarium> you can mention the accolades but you have to also mention his lies
{11:21:45 pm:} <Impresario> & too: herbal supplements were found to be, using that same government & NGO data – 7,750 times safer than synthetic pharmacuetical medications
{11:21:51 pm:} <LionClan> New York hospitals are treating coronavirus with vitamin C
{11:21:55 pm:} <Icarium> Pauling is like the Alex Jones of natural medicine
{11:22:15 pm:} <Impresario> synthetic pharmaceutical medications were found to be as dangerous as living in a war zone, statistically:
{11:23:39 pm:} <Icarium> the truth is any medication or supplement including vitamins that help defeat viral infections would be adopted by everyone and pulling in billions
{11:23:46 pm:} <Icarium> it’s a big problem in medicine
{11:24:24 pm:} <Impresario> (62,000*:) https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/24/pharmaceutical-drugs-vs-nutritional-supplements.aspx
{11:24:25 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: Pharmaceutical Drugs Are 62,000 Times Likely to Kill You
{11:24:27 pm:} <`411> — “Pharmaceutical Drugs Are 62,000 Times Likely to Kill You”
{11:24:38 pm:} <Impresario> the study is in there
{11:25:52 pm:} <Icarium> alex jones is a gigantic troll, so is Pauling. the similarities are strong
{11:26:30 pm:} <Icarium> if you are the founder of an entire branch of quack medicine, you are probably worse than Jones
{11:26:41 pm:} <Icarium> kinda like L Ron Hubbard and scientology
{11:26:49 pm:} <artalien> check this out, I am beating myself up for being a self interested person but I wouldn’t do this
{11:26:54 pm:} <artalien> BBC News – Coronavirus: Discarded disposable gloves on the street
{11:26:54 pm:} <artalien> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52188627
{11:26:55 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: Coronavirus: Discarded disposable gloves on the street – BBC News
{11:26:56 pm:} <`411> — “Coronavirus: Discarded disposable gloves on the street – BBC News”
{11:27:05 pm:} <Icarium> go read his wikipedia page
{11:27:24 pm:} <Icarium> there is an entire section on “vitamin C advocacy”
{11:27:24 pm:} <Impresario> https://www.anhinternational.org/2012/07/11/anh-exclusive-natural-health-products-ultra-safe-and-drugs-as-dangerous-as-war/
{11:27:26 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: ANH Exclusive! Natural health products ultra-safe and drugs as dangerous as war | Alliance For Natural Health
{11:27:29 pm:} <`411> — “ANH Exclusive! Natural health products ultra-safe and drugs as dangerous as war | Alliance For Natural Health”
{11:27:48 pm:} <artalien> and for cat lovers
{11:27:52 pm:} <artalien> BBC News – Coronavirus: ‘Keep cats indoors’, vets recommend
{11:27:52 pm:} <artalien> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52204534
{11:27:53 pm:} <JohnStar> Title: Coronavirus: ‘Keep cats indoors’, vets recommend – BBC News
{11:27:54 pm:} <`411> — “Coronavirus: ‘Keep cats indoors’, vets recommend – BBC News”
{11:28:22 pm:} <fattratt> I had a friend phone up and tell me that his cat was quite ill.
{11:28:42 pm:} <fattratt> I’m now keeping well away from the neighbours’ cats.
{11:28:52 pm:} <artalien> My dog was sneezing two weeks ago and she never sneezes
{11:29:01 pm:} <fattratt> oh no
{11:29:09 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium: cites sections that are sentence fragments like a reasoned citation
{11:29:18 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium cites sections that are sentence fragments like a reasoned citation.
{11:29:29 pm:} <Icarium> you can put whatever dumb shit you want in your body, I’m just warning you
{11:29:48 pm:} <artalien> In four years I never heard my dog sneeze till two weeks ago
{11:29:51 pm:} <fattratt> If I see cat shit in the gdn I put a load of wood ash over it.
{11:30:09 pm:} <artalien> fattratt:)
{11:31:05 pm:} <Impresario> Icarium cites section headings that are sentence fragments like a reasoned citation.
{11:31:09 pm:} <fattratt>I give dog walkers a wide birth when I am out – enhanced social distancing from dogs and dog walkers.
{11:31:17 pm:} <Impresario> (i meant)

See the links & www.Mercola.com for more, or see e.g http://joevalentyn.org/press/2017/11/29/big-pharma-is-a-human-rights-violator-deadly-poisons-electroshocks-lobotomies-forcibly-for-millions-of-people-who-are-just-like-you-me/, http://joevalentyn.org/press/2015/06/11/healthiest-things-i-know-part-one/, & many books, studies, & other websites, including lectures by the mentioned recognized experts.

Conceived in 2015/2016, prototyped in 2017 or so; it is about the Western saying, “Happy Wife, Happy Life.” ?

Happy Wife, Happy Life!

– Joe

Zow!

This song is very loopable, by the way.

— That shoegazer chord progression!

Congratulations to Kevin Shields, master of dream rock.

Enchanted song. “Be my baby, now! A’woh’oh’oh’oh . . . “

& Here’s a bonus, recently unearthed video – official Ronettealia from New York City, 1964!

Happy Weekend! 🙃 💕 …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8wjMwgAwzQ

Yum. Flavorpunk meets salmon.

When I was 18, the food just wasn’t tasty enough for me. Turkey sandwiches didn’t have enough kick. I wanted a homemade go-to dish that had the punkiness of my favorite flavorings.

.: Tangy-Hot Salmon Sandwich :.

Ingredients:

• (“Alaskan”/”wild-caught”/”sockeye”) salmon. ((Available in cans.))
• (Favorite) sandwich bread or bagel.
• (Organic) Pepperjack or Swiss (or other, favorite) cheese.
• (Antibiotic-free) pepperoni slices.
• (Raw, organic / organic / real) cow’s butter.
• (Organic) mayonnaise. (Homemade is great.)
• (E.g “Grey-Poupon” brand) Dijon mustard.
• Fresh, raw (organic) garlick. (In a pinch garlick powder might work once or twice; the real, fresh, raw garlick is so good in this, tho, I strongly recommend fresh, raw garlick, not the powder.)
• (Organic) crushed red-pepper flakes.
• (Organic) dill (dill weed, not dill seed) seasoning.
• (Fresh-ground, organic) black pepper.
• (Fresh-ground, Himalayan/Celtic sea/sea) salt.
• Love. We’re making this with Love. ^_^

Instructions:

• Lightly melt some butter in a sauce pan on one of the lowest settings.
• Salt press the salmon if it is not already salted enough (press salt into the salmon). Black pepper it a little extra-generously, & sprinkle it with dill weed seasoning.
• Mix the salmon with mayonnaise, alike tuna salad, in a bowl.
• If you’re using an open-face bagel instead of bread slices:
  • add melted butter onto the open-face bagel.
• Spread Dijon mustard on the bread.
• WARNING: The sum total of raw garlick chunks, Dijon mustard, pepperoni slices, & crushed red pepper can make it too punky; you have to balance these to taste, but: add a layer of Dijon mustard, sprinkled with diced garlick chunks, crushed red pepper, & then a layer of pepperoni slices *to taste*. (If it’s too punky, this was what to do better next time.) Consider also that we will be heating the pepperoni slices, releasing some cured-meat oils: this is very tasty, but also a tad less healthy, I’d bet; if you wanted to make a cut higher grade of sandwich, consider adding pepperonis after heating (also if your delighter (delightor) is having throat, etc., problems with all the pungent flavorings, you could consider adding pepperoni slices after grilling the sandwich).
• Add the salmon and mayonnaise mix onto the bread.
• Add (I-like-extra) sliced (Swiss) cheese.
• If you’re using sandwich-bread slices instead of a bagel: add the melted butter to the outside top of the bread slices, & then fry the whole sandwich like a grilled cheese on each side to taste.
• If you’re using a bagel instead: toast the open-face sandwich in a mini toaster oven to taste.
• Serve hot & enjoy! Yum! ^_^

(I would offer a picture but I ate it instead ^_^.)

. . . Wishing you all all the luck in Love.

& Me too; all the luck in Love.

This is a great song for getting sentimental, especially around times like New Year’s – Django Reinhardt’s “Beyond The Sea.”

To the best new year,
Joe

A personal favorite of mine: The Song of Solomon. The Bible does Love, & does it splendorously.

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This post was lost for a little while, due to a hack against my website. Maybe this Song inspired much envy & jealousy =D: Do read on:

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The Old Testament: The Song Of Solomon:

1:1 The song of songs, which is Solomon’s.

1:2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.

1:3 Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.

1:4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

1:5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

1:6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother’s children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

1:7 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions? 1:8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds’ tents.

1:9 I have compared thee, O my love, to a company of horses in Pharaoh’s chariots.

1:10 Thy cheeks are comely with rows of jewels, thy neck with chains of gold.

1:11 We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver.

1:12 While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.

1:13 A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.

1:14 My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire in the vineyards of Engedi.

1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves’ eyes.

1:16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.

1:17 The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.

2:1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.

2:2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.

2:3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.

2:4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.

2:5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.

2:6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.

2:7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.

2:8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

2:9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

2:10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

2:11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; 2:12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; 2:13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

2:14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

2:15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.

2:16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.

2:17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether.

3:1 By night on my bed I sought him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.

3:2 I will rise now, and go about the city in the streets, and in the broad ways I will seek him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.

3:3 The watchmen that go about the city found me: to whom I said, Saw ye him whom my soul loveth? 3:4 It was but a little that I passed from them, but I found him whom my soul loveth: I held him, and would not let him go, until I had brought him into my mother’s house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me.

3:5 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.

3:6 Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness like pillars of smoke, perfumed with myrrh and frankincense, with all powders of the merchant? 3:7 Behold his bed, which is Solomon’s; threescore valiant men are about it, of the valiant of Israel.

3:8 They all hold swords, being expert in war: every man hath his sword upon his thigh because of fear in the night.

3:9 King Solomon made himself a chariot of the wood of Lebanon.

3:10 He made the pillars thereof of silver, the bottom thereof of gold, the covering of it of purple, the midst thereof being paved with love, for the daughters of Jerusalem.

3:11 Go forth, O ye daughters of Zion, and behold king Solomon with the crown wherewith his mother crowned him in the day of his espousals, and in the day of the gladness of his heart.

4:1 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves’ eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.

4:2 Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.

4:3 Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks.

4:4 Thy neck is like the tower of David builded for an armoury, whereon there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men.

4:5 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies.

4:6 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense.

4:7 Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.

4:8 Come with me from Lebanon, my spouse, with me from Lebanon: look from the top of Amana, from the top of Shenir and Hermon, from the lions’ dens, from the mountains of the leopards.

4:9 Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck.

4:10 How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell of thine ointments than all spices! 4:11 Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon.

4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

4:13 Thy plants are an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, 4:14 Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices: 4:15 A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.

4:16 Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

5:1 I am come into my garden, my sister, my spouse: I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved.

5:2 I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.

5:3 I have put off my coat; how shall I put it on? I have washed my feet; how shall I defile them? 5:4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.

5:5 I rose up to open to my beloved; and my hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock.

5:6 I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself, and was gone: my soul failed when he spake: I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer.

5:7 The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.

5:8 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love.

5:9 What is thy beloved more than another beloved, O thou fairest among women? what is thy beloved more than another beloved, that thou dost so charge us? 5:10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

5:11 His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

5:12 His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.

5:13 His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.

5:14 His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.

5:15 His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.

5:16 His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

6:1 Whither is thy beloved gone, O thou fairest among women? whither is thy beloved turned aside? that we may seek him with thee.

6:2 My beloved is gone down into his garden, to the beds of spices, to feed in the gardens, and to gather lilies.

6:3 I am my beloved’s, and my beloved is mine: he feedeth among the lilies.

6:4 Thou art beautiful, O my love, as Tirzah, comely as Jerusalem, terrible as an army with banners.

6:5 Turn away thine eyes from me, for they have overcome me: thy hair is as a flock of goats that appear from Gilead.

6:6 Thy teeth are as a flock of sheep which go up from the washing, whereof every one beareth twins, and there is not one barren among them.

6:7 As a piece of a pomegranate are thy temples within thy locks.

6:8 There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.

6:9 My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.

6:10 Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners? 6:11 I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley, and to see whether the vine flourished and the pomegranates budded.

6:12 Or ever I was aware, my soul made me like the chariots of Amminadib.

6:13 Return, return, O Shulamite; return, return, that we may look upon thee. What will ye see in the Shulamite? As it were the company of two armies.

7:1 How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince’s daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.

7:2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.

7:3 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.

7:4 Thy neck is as a tower of ivory; thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bathrabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward Damascus.

7:5 Thine head upon thee is like Carmel, and the hair of thine head like purple; the king is held in the galleries.

7:6 How fair and how pleasant art thou, O love, for delights! 7:7 This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.

7:8 I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; 7:9 And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.

7:10 I am my beloved’s, and his desire is toward me.

7:11 Come, my beloved, let us go forth into the field; let us lodge in the villages.

7:12 Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine flourish, whether the tender grape appear, and the pomegranates bud forth: there will I give thee my loves.

7:13 The mandrakes give a smell, and at our gates are all manner of pleasant fruits, new and old, which I have laid up for thee, O my beloved.

8:1 O that thou wert as my brother, that sucked the breasts of my mother! when I should find thee without, I would kiss thee; yea, I should not be despised.

8:2 I would lead thee, and bring thee into my mother’s house, who would instruct me: I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate.

8:3 His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

8:4 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please.

8:5 Who is this that cometh up from the wilderness, leaning upon her beloved? I raised thee up under the apple tree: there thy mother brought thee forth: there she brought thee forth that bare thee.

8:6 Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm: for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave: the coals thereof are coals of fire, which hath a most vehement flame.

8:7 Many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it: if a man would give all the substance of his house for love, it would utterly be contemned.

8:8 We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for? 8:9 If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.

8:10 I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour.

8:11 Solomon had a vineyard at Baalhamon; he let out the vineyard unto keepers; every one for the fruit thereof was to bring a thousand pieces of silver.

8:12 My vineyard, which is mine, is before me: thou, O Solomon, must have a thousand, and those that keep the fruit thereof two hundred.

8:13 Thou that dwellest in the gardens, the companions hearken to thy voice: cause me to hear it.

8:14 Make haste, my beloved, and be thou like to a roe or to a young hart upon the mountains of spices.

“In the cool of the evening when / everything is gettin’ kinda groovy . . . “

This song could not be cooler, in quantitative terms. “Would you like to go with me and see a movie . . . ?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7QzxYAjgNc

Unbelievable favorite. Wow.

This seems to’ve come out before Neutral Milk Hotel’s In The Aeroplane Over The Sea…

& Is that 1200s-“minnesang” style coverart? *faints like a fainting goat.*

“KISS me! Beneath the milkie twilight . . . Lead me out on the moonlit floor . . . Lift your open hand . . . strike up the band . . . &”

(Spread changed 2023’s May 21st at -0600 CDT 1:31′ am.)

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Sometimes people say “Women have it fine, there has never been a problem with sex rights.”

But at one time women couldn’t own property.

Women couldn’t vote.

& Women couldn’t file for divorce.

Today we take for granted that women enjoy these rights after hard-fought, hard-won struggles, & few would deny they should have them.

With the benefit of hindsight in an open society, we can understand that both sexism existed in the past & therefore, also, it most likely exists today.

One popular example is the longing for women in government, as well as women with independent wealth.

Only 24.3% of legislators worldwide are women.

Women of wealth make up only approximately 10% of that economic class compared to men.

We need to better the balance.

– Joe

From a public religion/politics/philosophy/culture discussion forum run by “Ma.”; the following chat posts are excerpted:

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(@joe) in Ma.’s defense, George Orwell spoke against “socialism” – in his political writings & in 1984. historical fascisms we’ve dealt with HAVE BEEN too far left; the thing to glean from this is its not the right-wing OR the left-wing we are to hate; its FASCISM we hate

(@joe) its the excess of either. when it becomes too authoritarian

(@joe) you can – & we’ve had plenty – of authoritarian left as well as rightist governments

(@Ma.) yes – orwell KNEW ‘socialism’ AND communism AND fascism
(@Ma.) he could distinguish and still condemn the heart of them all
(@Ma.) the wrong heart

(@joe) its the authoritarianism we detest

(@joe) it’s*

(@joe) does that make centrism the ultimate political position? i don’t think so – as societies change, both culturally & technologically, we need different progressive, libertarian etc policies case-by-case. sometimes we need smaller government, sometimes we need less greedy ecoomics

(@joe) economics.*

(@joe) we actually need a ‘configuration’ of conservative & liberal policies, which fit the situation on a case-by-case basis. just “nothing in excess.”

(@joe) bbl

For a long time I’ve talked about how this government – “of the people, by the people, for the people” – has as one of the main flaws of being a capitalist democracy, plutocratic tendencies. We know our government suffers from this because of Princeton’s long-term study.

Corporations have many, many times more say than we the people in American legislations. The fix for this was to rebuild corporate excess influence & reduce it to a trickle with lobbying & campaign finance law & other yet-unpublicized parts of our system of government.

Excess corporate influence has been a longstanding problem & reducing it – today in the form of “The Anti-Corruption & Public Integrity Act” & “The For The People Act,” – each seem like the best moving-&-shaking I’ve seen in this direction I’ve seen since I started talking about this.

These are great steps for a great democracy to become grand – or be on our way there.

Kudos to Elizabeth Warren & House Democrats & all involved for doing all the hard work required to put these bills on the road to heightening our democracy & providing a cleaner legal flow for the dealings of this country, & inasmuch we are that “city on the hill,” setting a precedent for the world.

Onward & Upward, America.

Thank You.

– Joe

These have been trying times.

America has had turbulence find it for the better part of two & a half years.

In such times, avoiding excess stress & also getting relief from stress are very important practices for us in the long haul.

Here are a number of ideas for handling stress, then:

• Avoid excess stress. It’s worth considering also that you can’t avoid all stress in life, but learning when to close the spigot bringing you exceeding stress is an important habit in Life, one that can keep you on the board rather than doubled-up in bed.
• Get relief from stress.
  • Recreation
    • Love & sex
    • Rewarding, regenerating social life
    • Enjoying Nature
    • Exercising
    • Gardening
    • Playing musical instruments
    • Enjoying books, videos, movies, & television
    • Make your own list!
  • Relaxation
    • Having sex
    • Relaxing in Nature
    • Listening to music & watching relaxing videos
    • Enjoying essential oils & incense
    • Spending time with pets
    • Enjoying a sauna / hot tub / scented bath / showers
  • Rest
    • Breathers
    • Naps/Meditation
    • Vacations
    • Sabbaticals

Together, we will make it together. But learning to sapiently rest, relax, & play in longlasting trials helps you & helps us. If you see someone struggling with burnout, privately, gently drop some hints about play, relaxation & resting in their lives.

See what time off can do for you.

See you on the links,
Joe

This morning I impart to you something as a male ally of feminists. I challenge women to be the best they can be – & by that I mean be the best “them” imaginable. When I seek a woman’s advice, or company, I love all the things that make her uniquely female, & more. I do not ask that she muscle up to be a man – or wear a leather belt – or a moustache: I love women because they are women, & I want women to bring their womanhood to the public social space we share, & ‘feminise’ us with your – at times strong, at times independent, at times candid, but always female selves.

Your caringness is not unwanted; your tact is like a candle in the window, illuminating something for us all; & your good sense is not only much-wanted but legitimately much-needed.

& So be fully you. femininity included, in this world;

I want you to be a part of this because you’re so good, not because I think we can muscle you into being more men. Feminise away.