phew. that title was a mouthful.
is Love just oxytocin? some would like to reduce us to strange cartoonlike machines, sputtering and chugging along — Love being a chemical & a formula, no consciousness just behaviors —
here’s a chat on what i consider a good direction philosophically — considering the wave of science that has comes down onto us since “The Enlightenment” & somewhat fueled by admiration of industrial era technological “progress” such as fossil fuel burning — that went well haha — where i argue for the whole existence of Love, & against reducing it, as well as air some ideas about our worth of Love vs. truth, as ideals, when it comes to schools, curricula, & our approach —
here:
<lakitu> some people say Love is oxytocin; that is the same thing as saying sex is sperm & vaginal fluids. but that is the reduction i see in some circles
<LionClan> may be a tautology
<lakitu> LionClan: use your noggin =)
<lakitu> or a grammar checker, i suppose
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<lakitu> wb artalien
<lakitu> just said this:
<lakitu> some people say Love is oxytocin; that is the same thing as saying sex is sperm & vaginal fluids. but that is the reduction i see in some circles
<lakitu> some people say Love is oxytocin; that is the same thing as saying sex is semen & vaginal fluids. but that is the reduction i see in some circles
<artalien2> Ty
<artalien2> Reduction sux :)
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<lakitu> sex is so much more than that, Love is so much more than ‘the fluid that runs thru our brain/glands when we Love someone’ – we must really take care to not make that mistake, we lose so much
<artalien2> Lionclan I would not answer literally and say ” if it makes sense to you it is well formed”
<altered> lakitu: id love to know what that you just said but its just glowing lights on my monitor :(
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<lakitu> =)
<lakitu> exactly
<lakitu> agree artalien2, i feel a big anti-reduction thing coming on
<lakitu> i guess you call it non-reductionism – i think
<lakitu> thing/cultural wave
<lakitu> i hope anyway –
<artalien2> I gotta go – interesting lc
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<lakitu> romanticism/anti-(over)intellectualism/non-reductionism/’mix in your own’ =)
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<lakitu> i would love to see a non-reduction push among people, it can be such a big mistake, to write-off truly indispensible things like Love, consciousness, because your meter and a theory says too
<lakitu> that doesn’t mean i stopped ‘being a monist’, or really being able to see things monisitically – re physicalism
<lakitu> i was an early proponent of physicalism…
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<lakitu> but`reducing Love to oxytocin is like reducing sex to semen – both are so much more
<lakitu> semen and vaginal fluids* =)
-*- lakitu coughs gently
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<lakitu> delicate interplays
<lakitu> i won’t get theoretical on sex, that’s what i’m saying: over- or mis-theorizing about Love & sex is what i’m criticizing.
<lakitu> reductionism
<lakitu> you know, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing
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<lakitu> altered – you are not artalien are you?
<altered> i am indeed not
<lakitu> i guess the names look similar -ok
<lakitu> so you’re still here
<lakitu> not quizzing you, just seeing if you were art coming back, or what
<lakitu> 2nd nicks, you know
<altered> undernet servers appear to use 14.4kbaud modem, kicks me off all the time